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Black Hills Turkey Tags #6755088
02/02/20 06:00 PM
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Law Dog Offline OP
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Just applied for my Black Hills turkey tags the full season and late season tags, this is the first year I have noticed a tag limit it’s 19,000 plus for the 1st season tag and 8,000 plus so not like they will run out so why the limit? It says it’s a draw but took the payments unlike a draw where you pay if your drawn down the road.

I am thinking it’s a move to stay ahead of the antis as they might jump on the no limit to use as a reason to play court games. We have a commissioner that kisses anti butt so you never know who’s playing what games.

They jacked up the preference points a few years ago to $10 now they went back to $5 so I bought one for the State Park turkey. New resident senior combo license was $78.00. I put in for 4 resident turkey tags and might pick up some leftovers later plus WY and WI.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Black Hills Turkey Tags [Re: Law Dog] #6755101
02/02/20 06:10 PM
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It is to limit non residents, SD is becoming less friendly to non res every year.

Re: Black Hills Turkey Tags [Re: Law Dog] #6755102
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From my understanding a Max of 10 percent of any draw tag can go to non resident

Re: Black Hills Turkey Tags [Re: Law Dog] #6755117
02/02/20 06:28 PM
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The turkey tags are there for anybody resident or non just never had any type of posted limit.


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Jerry Herbst
Re: Black Hills Turkey Tags [Re: Law Dog] #6755218
02/02/20 08:00 PM
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Moved to Fbks, Ak.
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You pay when you apply in Alaska. State keeps the money whether you draw or not. That money is part of the pot matched with PR funds.
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Re: Black Hills Turkey Tags [Re: Law Dog] #6755223
02/02/20 08:07 PM
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Them points add up over time I have 24 years for a Park elk tag going still waiting not paying for any point there.


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Jerry Herbst
Re: Black Hills Turkey Tags [Re: Law Dog] #6755345
02/02/20 09:22 PM
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I think it is set up that way because of there "system". They have to put a number in the computer for there system to work. If you look at archery or mentor tags they also have a abstract number in there for license availability, but they are truly unlimited. There is no number that is "unlimited" so they just put a crazy high number in. I have noticed this in the past with archery, muzzleloader, and mentor tags. My guess is if the number runs low they just add another 10,000 tags in the computer.

Re: Black Hills Turkey Tags [Re: Law Dog] #6755365
02/02/20 09:29 PM
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I see WY has a number also but are over the counter unlimited for what I have seen.

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Re: Black Hills Turkey Tags [Re: Law Dog] #6755405
02/02/20 09:43 PM
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I hunted the black hills about 20 years ago. I hope to go back one day. Beautiful country out there.

Re: Black Hills Turkey Tags [Re: Law Dog] #6755541
02/02/20 10:54 PM
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South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana, New Mexico, Iowa, and Kansas are all VERY negative to non-residents. Small percentage of tags, price, etc. It doesn't really bother me and I say good if you live there, but it will bite them in the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) financially speaking. It’s all about the $$$ in tags and not about the small town folks that make a living on non-resident hunters.


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Re: Black Hills Turkey Tags [Re: Law Dog] #6755556
02/02/20 11:01 PM
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Paid hunting killed the bird hunting and it never came back you might need to add a lot of other States to that list. LOL


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Jerry Herbst
Re: Black Hills Turkey Tags [Re: Cootswatter] #6755575
02/02/20 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Cootswatter
South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana, New Mexico, Iowa, and Kansas are all VERY negative to non-residents. Small percentage of tags, price, etc. It doesn't really bother me and I say good if you live there, but it will bite them in the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) financially speaking. It’s all about the $$$ in tags and not about the small town folks that make a living on non-resident hunters.




You can hunt elk for less the I can buy a small game/fishing comb as a resident it’s not just the nonresident getting screwed. Just what non resident fees in CO are such a deal? I’m confused.

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Re: Black Hills Turkey Tags [Re: Law Dog] #6756002
02/03/20 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Originally Posted by Cootswatter
South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana, New Mexico, Iowa, and Kansas are all VERY negative to non-residents. Small percentage of tags, price, etc. It doesn't really bother me and I say good if you live there, but it will bite them in the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) financially speaking. It’s all about the $$$ in tags and not about the small town folks that make a living on non-resident hunters.




You can hunt elk for less the I can buy a small game/fishing comb as a resident it’s not just the nonresident getting screwed. Just what non resident fees in CO are such a deal? I’m confused.


3/4 of Colorado license funds are generated by non residents (60 out of 80 million), that basically subsidizes the resident fees. Minnesota doesnt even let nonresidents trap no matter how much they are willing to pay. I wish there was a better way to devise a more fair system for non residents but it would be hard to argue against state management of wildlife since it has generally worked out very well in the U.S.

Re: Black Hills Turkey Tags [Re: Law Dog] #6756133
02/03/20 02:31 PM
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How is the population in the Hills? I haven't been for a few years because the bird #'s were steadily decreasing while the non res hunter #'s were increasing.


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Re: Black Hills Turkey Tags [Re: Law Dog] #6756140
02/03/20 02:40 PM
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The only answer is quit buying overpriced tags. You dont need any kind of license to call in a tom turkey, whistle up an elk, rattle in a big buck if you are only equipped with a camera to "take" your animal or bird. Then take that tag money to your local grocery store. Take your favorite firearm out and shoot feral pigeons, or pop bottles, or tree stumps or whatever.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Black Hills Turkey Tags [Re: danny clifton] #6756154
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
The only answer is quit buying overpriced tags. You dont need any kind of license to call in a tom turkey, whistle up an elk, rattle in a big buck if you are only equipped with a camera to "take" your animal or bird. Then take that tag money to your local grocery store. Take your favorite firearm out and shoot feral pigeons, or pop bottles, or tree stumps or whatever.


Sounds like an anti.

That's exactly what they would want.

Re: Black Hills Turkey Tags [Re: Law Dog] #6756173
02/03/20 03:27 PM
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i will become a poacher before i pay more for a tag than the meat would cost if I were to buy beef pork chicken or turkey
you keep on buying those high priced tags ksnow. that is what that the animal rights crowd want. turn hunting into something only an elite few can enjoy like in much of europe.

wonder where all that money goes? tax's keep going up and infra structure keeps deteriorating. ever notice how muskrat, rabbit, quail, prairie chicken numbers are declining? see any of that tag money going to find out why? here in ks the money is used for state parks so old retired guys can go live in their rv's cheaply all summer


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Black Hills Turkey Tags [Re: Law Dog] #6756557
02/03/20 09:46 PM
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Hey Danny thats the goal . turn us all into poachers. Make outdoor activities only for the elite


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Re: Black Hills Turkey Tags [Re: Law Dog] #6756614
02/03/20 10:28 PM
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I would never pay $400 to shoot a deer or $600 for a elk and the sheep are safe from me also no desire to poach just will do without. With 24 years of preference points I may never get a elk tag in the Park, in 40+ year I drew 3 tags so far never missing a application period.

If turkey tags ever go over $100 they can keep them.


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Jerry Herbst
Re: Black Hills Turkey Tags [Re: Law Dog] #6756631
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im not going to poach either. just dont like where hunting is headed. guy in the ks dept of wildlife and parks told me just the other day that hunting for food was no longer a valid reason to hunt. said the price of a tag had no bearing on an animals value it was about the experience of hunting. i can hunt without killing anything. no tag or license required to hunt. when i kill its for food or money to buy other stuff i need.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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