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Single staking for coyotes #6759220
02/05/20 06:37 PM
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Will a 24inch rebar stake hold a coyote?

Re: Single staking for coyotes [Re: mocoyotetrapping] #6759238
02/05/20 06:43 PM
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Probably, but depends on the soil.

Re: Single staking for coyotes [Re: mocoyotetrapping] #6759244
02/05/20 06:46 PM
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maybe if you have a 3 foot long trap chain. you can increase its holding power considerably by putting a little bend in it about 6 inches up from the bottom.


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Re: Single staking for coyotes [Re: mocoyotetrapping] #6759250
02/05/20 06:49 PM
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these are great. cross staked rebar will result in almost 0 failures. https://www.ebay.com/c/1833137307


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Single staking for coyotes [Re: mocoyotetrapping] #6759254
02/05/20 06:50 PM
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My stakes are 18 - 20 inches and our soil is a little better than sandy. Most of the time it will be fine but I have had coyotes jack a few out. Now I just double cross stake, that they don't pull. If I know I want the trap in that location for a long period of time I cable stake them.

Re: Single staking for coyotes [Re: mocoyotetrapping] #6759343
02/05/20 07:38 PM
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Not here unless you run eight foot of chain and that's iffy.


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Re: Single staking for coyotes [Re: mocoyotetrapping] #6759355
02/05/20 07:47 PM
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32 inch you can sleep better at night, a little rain or warm up and bad things can happen. Been using wolf fangs for years now I really like the cable stake idea and it worked well in the mud we had this year.

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Re: Single staking for coyotes [Re: mocoyotetrapping] #6759368
02/05/20 07:55 PM
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You can cross stake disposables.
Those bent stakes hold well but they can be a bear to drive.


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Re: Single staking for coyotes [Re: mocoyotetrapping] #6759397
02/05/20 08:09 PM
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When pulling a staked trap I'd wiggle the stake a little and pull it out by hand. I tried pulling cable stakes and figured my guts were going to come out first. Do yourself a favor and use cable stakes.

Sorry I went off topic and didn't answer your question.


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Re: Single staking for coyotes [Re: mocoyotetrapping] #6759401
02/05/20 08:12 PM
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I wouldn't do it here on a single stake. One day it could be rock solid ground and hold well, then a good soaking rain or a big warmup thaw can make the soil completely mucked and it wouldnt hold one very well at all.i cross stake with rebar and no issues. Single stakes, yes there will be issues.
Always stake for an elephant. Better safe than sorry.
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Re: Single staking for coyotes [Re: mocoyotetrapping] #6759517
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How do you guys pull these stakes out of the ground?


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Re: Single staking for coyotes [Re: mocoyotetrapping] #6759575
02/05/20 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mocoyotetrapping
Will a 24inch rebar stake hold a coyote?

Heck no, not in the soil I have, they can pump a 30" one out.
Earth anchors best stake a person can use.
Double stakes mean twice the amount of stakes compared to single.
Earth anchors, you can carry fifty in one hand
Earth anchors have Superior swiveling compared to a stake too, a thief rarely pulls and anchor. I didn't loose 3-4 traps because they couldn't pull it

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Re: Single staking for coyotes [Re: mocoyotetrapping] #6759661
02/05/20 10:11 PM
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I use Wolf fang Anchors...no rebar anymore for me . If I went back I'd cross stake.


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Re: Single staking for coyotes [Re: mocoyotetrapping] #6759673
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I guess I’ll double stake.

Re: Single staking for coyotes [Re: Jurassic Park] #6759679
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
How do you guys pull these stakes out of the ground?


For cable stakes I used a pick mattock.


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Re: Single staking for coyotes [Re: mocoyotetrapping] #6759680
02/05/20 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mocoyotetrapping
I guess I’ll double stake.



Last time I was down in MO it was like a gravel pit driving a steel stake was a challenge I either came back out easily or never would.


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Re: Single staking for coyotes [Re: mocoyotetrapping] #6759682
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I have been cross staking with 14" rebar and it seems to hold tight...I can't pull them up by the trap, anyhow.
We have clay or black loam mostly. If it was muddy or Sandy I'd run an 18" Berkshire cable I think...but I just started K9 trapping


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Re: Single staking for coyotes [Re: mocoyotetrapping] #6759691
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I trap every thing from farm ground to pasture and mountains I almost always use a 24 inch chain and dog knot stake catch 30 to 50 coyotes a year and never had one pump a stake. Rebar will get you in trouble especially with a short chain and a swivel that catches the stake. They stopped making the dog knot stakes years ago and they can be an SOB to pull but they work and if you do have a dog pull one they act like a drag. You can make one by using smooth cold rolled steel and heating or grinding a point the heat and flare the top or weld and driving head. Then weld an inch long bead 4 inches up from the point on each side of the stake and stagger the weld. The concept is when you drive the stake you create a larger hole because of the knot, the earth is constantly caving in and shifting the soil which fills in behind the knot locking the stake in. Wish they still made them and might be an opportunity for someone that works metal. With a 24 inch chain they have a hard time pumping with that stake, with rebar the swivel acts like a jack when they jump pulls the stake up the stake stays up a half inch the swivel slides down and catches the rebar. Coyote jumps up stake goes up swivel slides down and it keeps going up. If you use rebar double stake or go to an earth anchor.

Re: Single staking for coyotes [Re: mocoyotetrapping] #6759694
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Not a good idea to pull any stake by the trap. Unless you like working on traps.


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Re: Single staking for coyotes [Re: mocoyotetrapping] #6759699
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I love using the superstakes, I put them on with j-hooks and tack weld them and I'm good to go all season and don't have to lug around all that rebar. I lost one eith a 24" stake 3 years ago and I switched to the superstakes and have been very pleased

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