Re: Nebraska 2nd Amendment Alert
[Re: NebrCatMan]
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It would be nice to know what changes to Nebraska law would be made by these "bad bills," and how they would impact Second Amendment rights in that state.
Jim
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Re: Nebraska 2nd Amendment Alert
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James , I'll tell you from what I can make out of the bills they are not good for firearm owners. The bills , if you attempt to read them. were written by some lawyer. While most common folk senators can get their point of their bill as written in a couple 3 or 4 pages, these bills are a "hard time understanding for the common folk legal mumbo jumbo nightmare". 20 to 25 pages long. I don't know if your a lawyer or not, don't care either. Most red flag laws are just a backdoor approach at gun control or gun confiscation. I know of no one …. not even a trained counselor or therapist who can be sure 100% and state that 1 person out of a hundred they pick will flip out and do a gun crime. Or say for sure the other 99 who could flip out but show no signs of doing so never will. In this world now a days of bad divorces and break ups I can assure you many many will lie to hurt the other party or get them in trouble legally. Child custody case can get dirty. And why only pick on firearms if you are concerned about some one hurting some one else. Knives, baseball bats, poison, vehicles, electricity, propane or natural gas, rope, ete...etc. All of the mentioned items have been used to kill someone in the past. But these bills only focus on firearms. What about alcohol. You hear everyday where the abuse of it has caused the death of many. Every day !!! . But take away our 2nd amendment rights or infringe on them till they are gone. That's what they want. As far as LB 816 from what I can make out ALL guns would be treated like handguns. You must have a permit to buy or sell. Could not give any gun to anyone... unless they are checked out and permitted to receive it. Want to make the State patrol have the power to track or keep knowledge of permits. This is just what I can get out of it. Many tell me there is more to the bill than that. If anyone wants to know more they can find out for themselves by going to the Nebraska Unicameral webb site and typing in the bill and reading for them selves what all it pertains too. I've seen and heard enough to know it's just more red tape against freedom loving supporters of the 2nd amendment.
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Re: Nebraska 2nd Amendment Alert
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It will be interesting to see who has donated to the campaigns of those sponsoring and voting for this bill. Follow the money and I bet it leads to Bloomberg.
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Re: Nebraska 2nd Amendment Alert
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How can the people STOP there elected officials for not following the Constitution of the United State that they pledge to protect. This is just another State that is follow other State. When is it going to end?
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Re: Nebraska 2nd Amendment Alert
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my concern is every state with a permit to purchase handgun , is already conditioned for much more by the decades long acceptance of such significant over-reach of authority that is permit to purchase.
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Re: Nebraska 2nd Amendment Alert
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James , I'll tell you from what I can make out of the bills they are not good for firearm owners. The bills , if you attempt to read them. were written by some lawyer. While most common folk senators can get their point of their bill as written in a couple 3 or 4 pages, these bills are a "hard time understanding for the common folk legal mumbo jumbo nightmare". 20 to 25 pages long. I don't know if your a lawyer or not, don't care either. Most red flag laws are just a backdoor approach at gun control or gun confiscation. I know of no one …. not even a trained counselor or therapist who can be sure 100% and state that 1 person out of a hundred they pick will flip out and do a gun crime. Or say for sure the other 99 who could flip out but show no signs of doing so never will. In this world now a days of bad divorces and break ups I can assure you many many will lie to hurt the other party or get them in trouble legally. Child custody case can get dirty. And why only pick on firearms if you are concerned about some one hurting some one else. Knives, baseball bats, poison, vehicles, electricity, propane or natural gas, rope, ete...etc. All of the mentioned items have been used to kill someone in the past. But these bills only focus on firearms. What about alcohol. You hear everyday where the abuse of it has caused the death of many. Every day !!! . But take away our 2nd amendment rights or infringe on them till they are gone. That's what they want. As far as LB 816 from what I can make out ALL guns would be treated like handguns. You must have a permit to buy or sell. Could not give any gun to anyone... unless they are checked out and permitted to receive it. Want to make the State patrol have the power to track or keep knowledge of permits. This is just what I can get out of it. Many tell me there is more to the bill than that. If anyone wants to know more they can find out for themselves by going to the Nebraska Unicameral webb site and typing in the bill and reading for them selves what all it pertains too. I've seen and heard enough to know it's just more red tape against freedom loving supporters of the 2nd amendment. Good analysis of the issue. I agree. Jim
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Re: Nebraska 2nd Amendment Alert
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my concern is every state with a permit to purchase handgun , is already conditioned for much more by the decades long acceptance of such significant over-reach of authority that is permit to purchase.
Absolutely and it's not just confined to this particular point, although it's important, but also anything else where there is a time that people become conditioned.
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Re: Nebraska 2nd Amendment Alert
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I see Utah is also under attack with at least 3 bills introduced. Big nationwide push !!! Guess who, Michael Bloomberg!
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Re: Nebraska 2nd Amendment Alert
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02/10/20 09:00 AM
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Legislators aren't at work here right now but I expect red flag legislation to be introduced this session. The local news is trying to sell it now. We are a republican controlled state so maybe there is hope. However in othe states republicans have passed such legislation.
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Re: Nebraska 2nd Amendment Alert
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James , I'll tell you from what I can make out of the bills they are not good for firearm owners. The bills , if you attempt to read them. were written by some lawyer. While most common folk senators can get their point of their bill as written in a couple 3 or 4 pages, these bills are a "hard time understanding for the common folk legal mumbo jumbo nightmare". 20 to 25 pages long. I don't know if your a lawyer or not, don't care either. Most red flag laws are just a backdoor approach at gun control or gun confiscation. I know of no one …. not even a trained counselor or therapist who can be sure 100% and state that 1 person out of a hundred they pick will flip out and do a gun crime. Or say for sure the other 99 who could flip out but show no signs of doing so never will. In this world now a days of bad divorces and break ups I can assure you many many will lie to hurt the other party or get them in trouble legally. Child custody case can get dirty. And why only pick on firearms if you are concerned about some one hurting some one else. Knives, baseball bats, poison, vehicles, electricity, propane or natural gas, rope, ete...etc. All of the mentioned items have been used to kill someone in the past. But these bills only focus on firearms. What about alcohol. You hear everyday where the abuse of it has caused the death of many. Every day !!! . But take away our 2nd amendment rights or infringe on them till they are gone. That's what they want. As far as LB 816 from what I can make out ALL guns would be treated like handguns. You must have a permit to buy or sell. Could not give any gun to anyone... unless they are checked out and permitted to receive it. Want to make the State patrol have the power to track or keep knowledge of permits. This is just what I can get out of it. Many tell me there is more to the bill than that. If anyone wants to know more they can find out for themselves by going to the Nebraska Unicameral webb site and typing in the bill and reading for them selves what all it pertains too. I've seen and heard enough to know it's just more red tape against freedom loving supporters of the 2nd amendment. The day I can't gift a gun of mine to my kid or brother or nephew is the day they might as well kick in the door and let's light it up for a few seconds because that is just WRONG as free men and women. Somebody better tell Mini Mike and his buddies that we're not going to go quietly into the night...
"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground". Genesis 1:26
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Re: Nebraska 2nd Amendment Alert
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How can the people STOP there elected officials for not following the Constitution of the United State that they pledge to protect. This is just another State that is follow other State. When is it going to end? It will end when we rise up and hang all the traitors of the constitution. Then and only then!
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