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AR15 Guys #6766977
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I am building a new one, kind of on the upper scale of things.
I would like your opinions on 223 Wylde versus 5.56 NATO chamber.
Hoping to keep the upper at 1K or so, 2K or a bit more finished with lower and scope.
Thoughts on a 16" or 18" barrel?

Thanks, Zim

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20 inch barrel and Wlde chambered . Or .223 rem the 223 rem has the most accuracy potential. But you should not shoot 5.56 nato out of it. The wilde has a throat that is between the 223 and nato chamber so you can shoot both types but with a little more accuracy than the nato chamber if that makes sense. The 20 inch barrel because you can if you roll your own take advantage of the slower powders more so for heavier bullts .... get a 1 in 7 or 1 in 8 twist to stabilize heavier bulets.

There thats my two cents worth on the matter.

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Re: AR15 Guys [Re: Scuba1] #6766990
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Thanks Scuba, I was hoping for your input. I have a Rock River with a 20" heavy barrel 1/8 twist and it is a great shooter.
2 stage trigger and a top end scope on it, the only problem is ya pert near need a gun bearer to haul it around for you.
I have a 16" carbine that I built with a red dot on it that is just fine for what it is intended for except I need to put a better trigger in it.
Looking to build something in between the two.
Any one ever heard of Odin Gun Works?

Thanks, Zim

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Probably no help at all to you Zim but if I were building an AR with that budget, I believe I'd go .17 rem. Always wanted one of those. Anyway good luck on your build.

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With the Wylde chamber and a 8 twist barrel you can use bullets up to 80 grains, although you`ll have to single load the 80`s as they`re too long for the mag. Either Bartlein or Kreiger barrel, twenty inches for best accuracy, a Geisle trigger in the lower and you`ve got the best available stuff for out to 600 yards.

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Yup Odin makes some nice stuff and is not to pricey either for what ya get. Having said that, what makes or breaks a AR is the barrel and the trigger ....... there is 90% of your shooting capabilities. the rest is just the stuff that holds things together and fluff .... there are folks who will be able to discuss the merits of M lock over keypad hand guards at length and vice a versa. At the end of the day it does not make it shoot any better. Pick a stock that is comfortable for you same goes for the pistol grip ..... I have big hands and long arms so will probably like a different grip and stock to what you would want etc.


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Shame on you for even WANTING an AR !! How will you virtue signal or vote correctly if you own an AR?? .............Unless you're already dead.


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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Probably no help at all to you Zim but if I were building an AR with that budget, I believe I'd go .17 rem. Always wanted one of those. Anyway good luck on your build.

~ADC~

Thanks Jaimie, because of your skinning outfit I am still able to bend my finger enough to pull a trigger! grin
After this one 300 Blackout pistol or a 10mm or ???

Zim

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Originally Posted by white17
Shame on you for even WANTING an AR !! How will you virtue signal or vote correctly if you own an AR?? .............Unless you're already dead.


Hey... Ain't you got a wolverine to suffocate or some such thing?

Zim

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I wouldn't do anything like that !! I usually rip their carotid out with my teeth !!


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Why a .223?

The sky is the limit when it comes to these things and there are so many options. I've only been involved with a MSR for a year and I almost wish I hadn't gone down this rabbit hole.

I'm in the process of ordering parts to build another, I'm going to build a quality lower, and use it with multiple uppers. I've pretty much nailed this build down to 20 practical, 20 inch medium heavy fluted ss barrel threaded for suppressor.

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I purchased an AR15 6 months ago and have yet to take it out of the box. Expensive way to tell my liberal friends I have one to upset them.

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Originally Posted by white17
I wouldn't do anything like that !! I usually rip their carotid out with my teeth !!


Yep, now that I think about it I seen that on u tube.
That caused me to be a vegetarian that very day.
Also made me confused on what bathroom to use.


Zim

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I figured that !!


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Originally Posted by Zim


Yep, now that I think about it I seen that on u tube.
That caused me to be a vegetarian that very day.
Also made me confused on what bathroom to use.


Zim


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LMAO
Nice cat.

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Scuba, as long as yer on here gimmee your opinion on scopes for said build.
Looking at a Trijicon 1 by 4. about $700 without mounts.

Zim

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Zim I would back up and ask what do you want to do with said AR?

sounds like you have a heavy barrel gun and a light but really set up for short range with the red dot

maybe something in the middle 18 inch 223 wylde barrel http://www.gmriflebarrel.com/gm-m18-18-223-wylde-chamber/

a nice trigger , depends on what you like for feel single stage , 2 stage , flat face , curved and what you want for pull weight

M-lock free float hand guard

some mid magnification optic

just an idea , it depends what your wanting to do with it.


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