Re: AR15 Guys
[Re: Zim]
#6767114
02/12/20 01:36 AM
02/12/20 01:36 AM
|
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 10,404 Northeast Oklahoma
Mike in A-town
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 10,404
Northeast Oklahoma
|
It isn't widely known that the Siamese cat is worth it's weight in gold for pointing zuc's and cukes. Mike
One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.
Vladimir Lenin
|
|
|
Re: AR15 Guys
[Re: K9BeavCoon]
#6767389
02/12/20 10:40 AM
02/12/20 10:40 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 6,002 Rock Springs, WI
Zim
OP
trapper
|
OP
trapper
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 6,002
Rock Springs, WI
|
I know you said 300yd gun. But what’s your intended purpose? Shooting target, fighting, hunting deer and/or yotes? Targets and coyotes mostly, I have other stuff for deer. I would prefer not to need it for fighting but ya never know, Zim
|
|
|
Re: AR15 Guys
[Re: Zim]
#6767399
02/12/20 10:54 AM
02/12/20 10:54 AM
|
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 16,150 Tennessee
Scuba1
"color blind Kraut"
|
"color blind Kraut"
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 16,150
Tennessee
|
4x is a bit slim for shooting targets at 300 if you are chasing groups IMHO. Heck I have to get out the spotting scope when I sight in my 30-06 at 200 to find the holes in the paper and that has a 2.5x10X 56 Leupold on it.
Let's go Brandon
"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
|
|
|
Re: AR15 Guys
[Re: Scuba1]
#6767400
02/12/20 10:56 AM
02/12/20 10:56 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 6,677 Wabash, IN USA
Flipper 56
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 6,677
Wabash, IN USA
|
4x is a bit slim for shooting targets at 300 if you are chasing groups IMHO. Heck I have to get out the spotting scope when I sight in my 30-06 at 200 to find the holes in the paper and that has a 2.5x10X 56 Leupold on it. X2
"Where Can A Man Find Bear Beaver And Other Critters Worth Cash Money When Skinned?"
|
|
|
Re: AR15 Guys
[Re: Zim]
#6767404
02/12/20 11:00 AM
02/12/20 11:00 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 6,677 Wabash, IN USA
Flipper 56
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 6,677
Wabash, IN USA
|
You can always turn the high powered scope down but with a good rest it's nice to turn it up and see the look on a coyotes face!
"Where Can A Man Find Bear Beaver And Other Critters Worth Cash Money When Skinned?"
|
|
|
Re: AR15 Guys
[Re: Zim]
#6767646
02/12/20 12:43 PM
02/12/20 12:43 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 18,623 Green County Wisconsin
GREENCOUNTYPETE
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 18,623
Green County Wisconsin
|
I am going to admit I don't spend much time looking at "high end " hardware my kids eat a nice med-high end AR every month so my guns are all in the more budget range. basically every AR is a 2-300 yard gun even the 16 inch uppers and lowers are really all forgings coming from 4-5 places and different places machine them and finish add thier name a matched receiver set like the Aero precision to get a nice matched upper and lower a good barrel 16 or 18 inch fluted you don't need a heavy barrel to shoot accurately the approximately 50 fps gained by 2 more inches of barrel length really isn't noticed at 2-300 yards so I wouldn't hesitate to just go 16" as to whether a nickle boron BCG vs a Nitrated BCG gives more reliability I don't know the basic Nitrieded BCG hasn't caused me any issues , I admittedly don't put multiple thousands of rounds through it each year either nice trigger be it Geisly , Larue , timney , black rain I might go in a bit less expensive rifle build and put a thermal optic on it that would open up more new possibilities if not thermal then a Vortex Strike Eagle 1-8 would be an ideal mid range gun optic https://vortexoptics.com/vortex-strike-eagle-1-8x24-ar-bdc2-moa-riflescope.html
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
|
|
|
Re: AR15 Guys
[Re: Zim]
#6767677
02/12/20 01:14 PM
02/12/20 01:14 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 4,738 carolina, Alabama
The Possum Man
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 4,738
carolina, Alabama
|
For optics dont overlook the primary arms 1-6x or vortex strike eagle 1-6x. (identical scopes) I have 2 of the primary arms and i have to say i have been pleasantly pleased with how they have held up for me and i am rough on equipment. For around the $300 price point they are quite nice and will go to nearly a true 1x for close range work. I use the leupold mark 2 mounts for them. I am generally a scope snob also so when i recommend them it means I am using them with no plans to upgrade.
For triggers you can buy a nice 2 stage national match trigger from rock river for $100. I use the varmint version and like them alot.
Last edited by The Possum Man; 02/12/20 01:16 PM.
"If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough"
|
|
|
Re: AR15 Guys
[Re: Zim]
#6767795
02/12/20 03:03 PM
02/12/20 03:03 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 16,150 Tennessee
Scuba1
"color blind Kraut"
|
"color blind Kraut"
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 16,150
Tennessee
|
On my 223 AR I have a Nikon 3 x 12 x 40 with a BCD reticle. Its pretty much on with my loads in 62 grains. Sight in at 100 then you can just dial in the distance as needed as it has the yardage on the turret. real easy to shoot out to 300 and more with it.
Let's go Brandon
"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
|
|
|
Re: AR15 Guys
[Re: Larry Baer]
#6767796
02/12/20 03:04 PM
02/12/20 03:04 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 16,951 OH
Catch22
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 16,951
OH
|
I built this one not too long ago with a .223 wilde barrel from midway. I put a Giesele three gun trigger in it and put on some Daniels furniture with a Vltr spring. It shoots as good as my bolt guns for accuracy. I wanted this color so I went to a paint shop here in town and they mixed me a primer and very hard paint. SO far it has held up nicely. That looks sharp. Mine is pieces parts so when I get it together it's gonna be about four different colors lol. So I'm gonna camo it.
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
|
|
|
Re: AR15 Guys
[Re: Scuba1]
#6767797
02/12/20 03:07 PM
02/12/20 03:07 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 776 MN, USA
star flakes
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 776
MN, USA
|
Zim[/quote] Its a long wait till Zuchini season opening day Zim [/quote] That is the Mother of all Siamese Cats! That is a huge kitty. What do you feed that thing coyotes?
|
|
|
Re: AR15 Guys
[Re: Zim]
#6767838
02/12/20 03:35 PM
02/12/20 03:35 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 3,077 Wyoming
cmcf
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 3,077
Wyoming
|
A lot of competition shooters run White Oak uppers, I’m very satisfied with mine. I don’t try to push 80 gr. down a .224 hole so I chose a 1 in 12. Got the 24” varmit then put it in my lathe and cut 2.5” off and threaded and recrowned it. Then took the 2.5” chunk of barrel and machined it into a muzzle brake so I could watch bullet strike through the scope. It wears a 6x24 Weaver AO. Haven’t done any load development with it, just slapped a couple boxes of fifty and fiftyfive gr Sierras over benchmark and H335 together. .030 under max magazine c.o.a.l. 1/2gr. Below max powder charge. Wilde chamber. Groups at a hundred yards easily covered with a dime. It is heavy but for prairie dog and calling coyote it will do. If I’m gonna hike a little light weight bolt .223 goes instead.
“The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined” B. Disraeli
|
|
|
Re: AR15 Guys
[Re: The Possum Man]
#6768012
02/12/20 06:47 PM
02/12/20 06:47 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 4,152 Fontana KS
Andrew Eastwood
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 4,152
Fontana KS
|
For optics dont overlook the primary arms 1-6x or vortex strike eagle 1-6x. (identical scopes) I have 2 of the primary arms and i have to say i have been pleasantly pleased with how they have held up for me and i am rough on equipment. I got an Email-ad today from PSA for the Stike eagle 1X8 mounted on an 18 inch stainless upper for $499. Don't know how good the barrel is to be that cheap, but I am going to find out. Provided it shoots well that would leave a lot of room to your bottom line for ammo Zim.
|
|
|
Re: AR15 Guys
[Re: Zim]
#6768126
02/12/20 08:30 PM
02/12/20 08:30 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 4,738 carolina, Alabama
The Possum Man
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 4,738
carolina, Alabama
|
I have a 1-8x and a 1-6x. I wish i had got both in 1-6x. Since they arent real high end glass everything above 6x does get a bit fuzzy. Clear up to 6x though. Dont get me wrong the 8x is serviceable but i would have been happier with less magnification that was a little clearer. Plus the reticle only works on full magnification so if i want to use any of the BDC marks i have to crank it up and the edges of the scope get fuzzy and it annoys me. Also the 1-6x was at one time 100 bucks cheaper than the 1-8x.
"If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough"
|
|
|
|
|