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Re: .223 reloading ? [Re: Ranger109] #6765852
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Anyone load WC-842?


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Re: .223 reloading ? [Re: Ranger109] #6765937
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.223 50-55 gr nosler
If the front of bullet blows away, the rear of the bullet is solid copper, I found the base of bullet up against the other side, atleast something made it all the way across.
Virtually all of them hit in neck, head , or chest dropped instantly

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Re: .223 reloading ? [Re: Ranger109] #6766236
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21 grains of IMR 4198 under just about any bullet you wanna use. Barnes and the heavy stuff being the exclusion thus far. Have had great luck with it. All 1/2 or better in most guns Ive used it in.


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Re: .223 reloading ? [Re: Ranger109] #6766264
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25 grains of AA 2015 with a 50 grain Nosler BT. This load seems to shoot almost like magic in every 223 we have ever tried it in. Sub 1/2.

Re: .223 reloading ? [Re: Ranger109] #6766274
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Buy bulk ammo. Not a highly profitable caliber to reload, I suspect.

Re: .223 reloading ? [Re: charles] #6766301
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Originally Posted by charles
Buy bulk ammo. Not a highly profitable caliber to reload, I suspect.

You can get steel cased 55 gr fmj's for $157 a thousand if you shop.


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Re: .223 reloading ? [Re: Ranger109] #6766302
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when you purchase very inexpensive steel cased ammo you must also be aware of the hidden cost in BiMetalic bullets as they are called , if the bullet attracts a magnet but is not a green tip type then they are a thin mild steel jacket with a lead core.


these bullets have been found to erode the rifling of a barrel at approximately 2x that of copper jacketed lead core ammunition
lucky gunner did a nice test comparing the steel cased bimetalic bullets with brass cased copper jacket bullets
https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo/


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Re: .223 reloading ? [Re: charles] #6766304
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Originally Posted by charles
Buy bulk ammo. Not a highly profitable caliber to reload, I suspect.


Its not about profit Charles. There is only one factory loading I have found that will come close to my hand loads in the 223 and thats the Remington Hog Hammer with its Barnes TSX bullet. Still not quite as accurate as my home rolled stuff


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Re: .223 reloading ? [Re: Ranger109] #6766311
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Question is when will Varget be available? Out of stock everywhere.

Re: .223 reloading ? [Re: Ranger109] #6766332
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I never noticed target was running low at the dealers ... I am on my last 4 pounds or so though so better start looking


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Re: .223 reloading ? [Re: Ranger109] #6766362
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so far I can still find H4895 at an ok price , the CFE223 looks to be the next powder I might try it seems more available everywhere


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Re: .223 reloading ? [Re: Ranger109] #6766366
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If you like CFE223 you will like Leverevolution as well if not better for the heavier bullets 62 and up


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Re: .223 reloading ? [Re: Scuba1] #6766375
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
If you like CFE223 you will like Leverevolution as well if not better for the heavier bullets 62 and up


where are you finding leverevolution data for 223?


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Re: .223 reloading ? [Re: Ranger109] #6766390
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I use close to the same charge weights for both within a half a grain depending on bullet weight . they are right next to each other on the burn rate chart as well ... its my go to powder for the Grendel with 120 grain bullets as well LVR that is


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Re: .223 reloading ? [Re: Ranger109] #6766506
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No need. Fiocchi 55sp is dirt cheap and patterns great

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Originally Posted by Flint Hill fur
No need. Fiocchi 55sp is dirt cheap and patterns great

if you don't reload or care too that is definitely worth stocking up on at 44 cents a round.


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Re: .223 reloading ? [Re: Flint Hill fur] #6766859
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Originally Posted by Flint Hill fur
No need. Fiocchi 55sp is dirt cheap and patterns great



I like my shotguns to pattern well, and my rifles to group well. laugh


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Re: .223 reloading ? [Re: Ranger109] #6767232
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yall might want to try ARComp
shoots tiny groups in my ar


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Originally Posted by cotton
yall might want to try ARComp
shoots tiny groups in my ar



Cotton, what are you going to do if they get that crap pushed through in VA.?


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Re: .223 reloading ? [Re: Ranger109] #6767723
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Another thing about reloading is. If I didn't roll my own, I would open even more time on here posting bs . So in effect I also reload for yawls sanity grin


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