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Re: Chinese imports of meat: Did this get passed? [Re: KeithC] #6769739
02/14/20 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by KeithC

Parvovirus, for instance can live in soil for over a year and take freezing temperatures. I am sure there are tougher viruses than Parvo. I would think a virologist could splice hardy viruses to less hardy ones to make very hardy, virulent ones.

Keith



That's right! I had forgotten all about parvo. Saw that happen several times here in different dog yards


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Re: Chinese imports of meat: Did this get passed? [Re: WhiteTrash 88] #6769757
02/14/20 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteTrash 88
Try not to buy any meat from Wally World or any grocery store for that matter. Buy a beef and a hog or two a year from local farmers that are fed out right with no additives. America is setting itself up for a pandemic in my opinion doing this kind of crap. May pay a titch more for meat this way but you get hamburgers that don't shrink to half there original size when cooking them and a lot better taste.

Well said.

Re: Chinese imports of meat: Did this get passed? [Re: Canvasback2] #6769769
02/14/20 09:26 AM
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Hopefully wont be a terrible blow for the Tennessee Valley.

Re: Chinese imports of meat: Did this get passed? [Re: Canvasback2] #6769821
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Re: Chinese imports of meat: Did this get passed? [Re: Law Dog] #6769838
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
The last bbq wings we got from Mexico had enough feathers it could fly by itself I trust China even less.


That's hilarious! I love it!
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Re: Chinese imports of meat: Did this get passed? [Re: Canvasback2] #6769841
02/14/20 10:40 AM
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I never buy meat from Wally World the wife did long ago and it tasted like preservatives real nasty. They have no butchers that handle the meat it comes prepackaged and treated to sit for long periods of time and look fresh. sick


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Re: Chinese imports of meat: Did this get passed? [Re: Canvasback2] #6769883
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They just adding red dye #2 and water amongst other chemicals. Nothing that will kill you or make you grow an extra thumb according to the guberment grin

Re: Chinese imports of meat: Did this get passed? [Re: Canvasback2] #6769887
02/14/20 11:25 AM
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What I would like to know , why can't we process our chicken here? How can it be cheaper.

Re: Chinese imports of meat: Did this get passed? [Re: danny clifton] #6769898
02/14/20 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
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Took this out of the freezer yesterday. Bought a show pig from a little girl whose dad went to school with my kids. I didnt feed it or anything but I trust him not to sell me a hog loaded up with antibiotics or something. I like buying already dressed chicken at the grocery store but there are options. This China thing happens I won't buy anymore. I can't figure out how its cheaper to ship birds from s.mo, ar, la, ok to china, dress them and ship them back, cheaper than paying those poverty stricken americans and mexicans to do it here at home.



How are they supposed to slaughter the Chicken and pigs, freeze the whole carcass so that it can be shipped to China; then thaw it out for processing AND then refreeze it for the shipping back to the USA ? Don't like all that Freeze , thaw and refreeze again...

Then , there is the shipping time..
China Shipping follows Shanghai Port, Ningbo Port, Los Angeles Port with its own container container vessels. The transit time is around 21 days.


Three weeks just to get to China. Month and a half round trip. another 2 days total, to load and unload the ship. and who knows how long to thaw, process and refreeze all that meat.

All the while NO USDA Inspectors on site in China.

Re: Chinese imports of meat: Did this get passed? [Re: mask bandit] #6769936
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Originally Posted by mask bandit
What I would like to know , why can't we process our chicken here? How can it be cheaper.


Because no one wants to work if you give them free stuff for not working.

Re: Chinese imports of meat: Did this get passed? [Re: Canvasback2] #6769942
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Talk to the POTUS about it

Re: Chinese imports of meat: Did this get passed? [Re: mask bandit] #6769953
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Originally Posted by mask bandit
What I would like to know , why can't we process our chicken here? How can it be cheaper.



Itís not cheaper for us look at LaCrosse boots they moved out of WI to save money their boots are made cheaper and cost a lot more then before.

I got a antibiotic a few years ago made in the US $97.00 for a less then 2 oz, the same size refill was made in China it cost $97.00 also so who is saving really not the working man.

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Re: Chinese imports of meat: Did this get passed? [Re: danvee] #6769965
02/14/20 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by danvee
Talk to the POTUS about it



Hows your 401K ask POTUS.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Chinese imports of meat: Did this get passed? [Re: Canvasback2] #6770006
02/14/20 01:54 PM
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IRAs and stocks have been doing great for the last 3 administrations grain and cattle markets anemic. Chickens going overseas possibly is no more migrate workers to do the dirty work that was done in US processing plants.

Re: Chinese imports of meat: Did this get passed? [Re: Canvasback2] #6770019
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Originally Posted by danvee
IRAs and stocks have been doing great for the last 3 administrations grain and cattle markets anemic. Chickens going overseas possibly is no more migrate workers to do the dirty work that was done in US processing plants.


The stock market crashed in 2008 during George W. Bush's administration, within a very obvious 3 administrations. Please explain how you possibly think that is doing great.

Keith

Re: Chinese imports of meat: Did this get passed? [Re: BillyTraps] #6770022
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Originally Posted by BillyTraps


Seems people won't look at this.

Funny part is and Danvee won't like is Obama allowed their chicken here, lol.

Re: Chinese imports of meat: Did this get passed? [Re: Canvasback2] #6770023
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I know the translator for the Smithfield-Shuanghui International meat deal. Shuanghui was famous in China for selling low cost meats equivalent to our hotdogs. They wanted to be able to sell higher end food where there was a greater profit. So, they bought Smithfield. The product transfer was one way: from the US to China.

Interestingly enough, they tried to sell the Chinese public on the idea that Shuanghui was now producing a better quality. But the Chinese public didnít believe the new brightly colored packaging or labeling. I think they now are able to sell Smithfield processed meats only under the Smithfield name because the Chinese see American food manufacturers/processors as providing a better, safer product.


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Re: Chinese imports of meat: Did this get passed? [Re: Canvasback2] #6770027
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China would not think twice to poison Americans heck they use toxic paint on kids toys years ago that says it all.


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Re: Chinese imports of meat: Did this get passed? [Re: danvee] #6770031
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Originally Posted by danvee
IRAs and stocks have been doing great for the last 3 administrations grain and cattle markets anemic. Chickens going overseas possibly is no more migrate workers to do the dirty work that was done in US processing plants.



Best economy ever! LOL


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Re: Chinese imports of meat: Did this get passed? [Re: Canvasback2] #6770046
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What makes you think its going to be OUR chicken coming back??


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