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Christian Russia #6770751
02/15/20 02:51 AM
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Anyone catch that Putin has taken a stance against same sex marriage in Russia? Or that he openly supports Christian values and faith? Doesn't exactly sound like a communist leader. I'm sure he's not doing it to get voter support. Some of these ideas he's proposing to include in the constitution of the Russian Federation. Been a lot of changes in that part of the world since the days of Reagan and the Berlin Wall. Would like to hear some thoughts on what is behind Putin's recently expressed views.


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Re: Christian Russia [Re: cfowler] #6770752
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That would be a big jump from Til Yuri Gagarin cosmonaut saying "I see no God up here". Which was later said they were not his words but Nikita Khrushchev's words.

Re: Christian Russia [Re: cfowler] #6770802
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Must have found God and Jesus.


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Re: Christian Russia [Re: cfowler] #6770829
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Re: Christian Russia [Re: cfowler] #6770831
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Putin is the typical strong, authoritarian slavic leader that Russia favors be it czars or soviets.

He is very conservative like most previous leaders in Moscow. Very Russia first(which makes sense) and suspect of everything non-Russian.

Non-russian religions there (protestant) are under scrutiny and are being banned.

Re: Christian Russia [Re: cfowler] #6770862
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Don't be fooled. Putin is the United States' arch enemy and wants to destroy our democracy from within and without.

Re: Christian Russia [Re: cfowler] #6770863
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he is bisexual leaning toward homosexual, and is ashamed of it


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Re: Christian Russia [Re: cfowler] #6770884
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Originally Posted by cfowler
Anyone catch that Putin has taken a stance against same sex marriage in Russia? Or that he openly supports Christian values and faith? Doesn't exactly sound like a communist leader. I'm sure he's not doing it to get voter support. Some of these ideas he's proposing to include in the constitution of the Russian Federation. Been a lot of changes in that part of the world since the days of Reagan and the Berlin Wall. Would like to hear some thoughts on what is behind Putin's recently expressed views.


My guess is that he is just taking a shot at the deterriorating American values on display in the current election cycle.

Re: Christian Russia [Re: cfowler] #6770904
02/15/20 09:58 AM
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Such pessimists. You all should read about this dictator. He ruled the known world with an iron fist. He killed anyone in his way to gain power to include the captors and invaders of the Promised land. Put into simple terms so you all don't get lost in the story (which is written everywhere in history not just scripture). His name was Cyrus the Great. God uses broken people to do his will. All kinds of examples to include myself in that mix. Why vote for Trump? He is not a Christian some say. Well this is why...….Jan 02, 2020 · Answer: Cyrus is a king mentioned more than 30 times in the Bible and is identified as Cyrus the Great (also Cyrus II or Cyrus the Elder) who reigned over Persia between 539—530 BC. This pagan king is important in Jewish history because it was under his rule that Jews were first allowed to return to Israel after 70 years of captivity. So to think he could not use Putin is insane. LLL


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Re: Christian Russia [Re: cfowler] #6770908
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After he crushed everyone in his way he got this word. During the first year of his reign, God came to him and gave him a message. The king held a public announcement about this message. He told the people of Persia and Babylon that the Lord had authorized him to rebuild Solomon’s Temple and that he must release many of the Judeans back to their homeland to complete this task.


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Re: Christian Russia [Re: cfowler] #6770916
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Romans 13:1 for my Christian friends here." Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God."


Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
Re: Christian Russia [Re: danny clifton] #6770919
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
he is bisexual leaning toward homosexual, and is ashamed of it

Do you know for a fact that this is the type of lifestyle that he has chosen?How do you know this?


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Re: Christian Russia [Re: Bruce T] #6770931
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Originally Posted by Bruce T
Must have found God and Jesus.


Maybe he has. But the post made by 330, right after yours, is the best way to proceed.
A conversion of Putin would be very interesting to see play out

Re: Christian Russia [Re: gryhkl] #6770944
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Originally Posted by gryhkl
Originally Posted by Bruce T
Must have found God and Jesus.


Maybe he has. But the post made by 330, right after yours, is the best way to proceed.
A conversion of Putin would be very interesting to see play out

Very true time will tell.I hope for the best until proven otherwise.


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Re: Christian Russia [Re: cfowler] #6770956
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he was born homosexual bruce and chose heterosexuality. its why he is so conflicted. he was taught to believe that the emotions and desires he has no control over made him an evil man.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Christian Russia [Re: cfowler] #6770959
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JMHO, but even an apparently nonreligious dictator such as Putin recognizes the intrinsic value of societies framed around judeo-christian mores. All of modern history culminating in the American experiment bears that out. Sadly though he is doing so as the American experiment fizzles to an inglorious end as a result of the abolishment of those same mores.


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Re: Christian Russia [Re: danny clifton] #6770972
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
he was born homosexual bruce and chose heterosexuality. its why he is so conflicted. he was taught to believe that the emotions and desires he has no control over made him an evil man.

Are you KIDDING US?????

...cant even twist around that statement!


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Re: Christian Russia [Re: danny clifton] #6770979
02/15/20 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
he was born homosexual bruce and chose heterosexuality. its why he is so conflicted. he was taught to believe that the emotions and desires he has no control over made him an evil man.

Wrong.That is a choice that he made if true.


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Re: Christian Russia [Re: cfowler] #6770980
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So much for the show. Need more acid pills to stand this talk.


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Re: Christian Russia [Re: cfowler] #6770991
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He is More of a fascist then a communist,

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