Re: Eagles and Lead
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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02/17/20 09:32 AM
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danny clifton
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I seen a hawk fly off a high dollar bobcat I had snared. Was a giant mess stead of valuable fur. Bald eagles will clean up a pile of coyote carcasses pretty quick. Same for a beaver lying half in half out the water in your conibear. If you really want to know why people shoot eagles talk to sheepherders. They dont always ignore a newborn calf either.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Eagles and Lead
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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02/17/20 09:35 AM
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danny clifton
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BTW you guys that turkey hunt just be glad they are not our national bird. It was close and people would worship them instead of eagles.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Eagles and Lead
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02/17/20 09:37 AM
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i bet lead kills a bunch but theres always a big hole too. pcr2: Tell my WHY would anyone want to kill an Eagle? Eating that beautiful fisher that you finally trapped and had to wait who knows how long for a tag
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Re: Eagles and Lead
[Re: danny clifton]
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02/17/20 09:38 AM
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BTW you guys that turkey hunt just be glad they are not our national bird. It was close and people would worship them instead of eagles. Canucks have no problem trapping their national animal. I dont see how a turkey would be much different...Heck...it might have been better since there would've been earlier habitat protection and turkey hunting would be a national past time
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Re: Eagles and Lead
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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02/17/20 09:40 AM
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HP:
It is VERY real. First I have taken 4 eagle into be rehab. I am a falconer in Mi. so I get call several time a year about raptors. You have to remember Eagles are scavengers. It is had to believe but a any bird of pray can die from lead the size of a BB. Yes a BB. An small example, someone goes out hunting sqr. and uses a 410 shoot gun. Shoots at a sqr. and does not kill the sqr makes it to a hole. The sqr. how has lead in its body. He leaves the hole and dies, the eagle eats the sqr. and now he has lead poisoning. Ever loose a lead jig fishing? Eagle eat fish. There are several ways to get ingested. So you don't believe it, google it. Why did they band lead in paint? It may have been a deer issue because the bullet was still in tact and the Eagle got a large chunk of meat off the deer that had the bullet would have been my guess. Yes lead can kill Eagles.
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Re: Eagles and Lead
[Re: danny clifton]
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02/17/20 09:41 AM
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I seen a hawk fly off a high dollar bobcat I had snared. Was a giant mess stead of valuable fur. Bald eagles will clean up a pile of coyote carcasses pretty quick. Same for a beaver lying half in half out the water in your conibear. If you really want to know why people shoot eagles talk to sheepherders. They dont always ignore a newborn calf either. I had an eagle swoop out of the fog at grab a big green head Mallard I'd just shot.. Dog hadn't even gotten in the water to get the duck and eagle was carting it off..Sat up in tree across the channel where I could watch him eat it. Lost more than one muskrat to hawks and eagles too. Pretty sure lost a small coon too. See eagles here sitting on road killed deer all time. Some years back lady lives a mile over let her little dog out in dark to do it's business. Watched in horror as got carried away by an owl. So them things happen.. Mac
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Re: Eagles and Lead
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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02/17/20 09:53 AM
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danny clifton
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there are plenty of eagles in the world. i dont want to quit using lead cause 4-5 out of every thousand die from ingesting it. HOWEVER, i have been a truck driver most of my adult life. I will get behind an initiative to ban trains as they kill several every year too.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Eagles and Lead
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02/17/20 09:56 AM
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Here in the Susquehanna and Juniata rivers we used to have muskrat houses on darn near every grass patch and island in the rivers, then along comes the plan to build White Headed Buzzard hacking towers!! No more muskrats!!! Where did they go?
NRALIFER,PRPA LIFER,HUNTER,FURTAKER
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Re: Eagles and Lead
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02/17/20 09:57 AM
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there are plenty of eagles in the world. i dont want to quit using lead cause 4-5 out of every thousand die from ingesting it. HOWEVER, i have been a truck driver most of my adult life. I will get behind an initiative to ban trains as they kill several every year too. Don't forget the Windmills!!!
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Re: Eagles and Lead
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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02/17/20 10:09 AM
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Float the Bighhorn river here in Montana during waterfowl season it you want to see a bunch of bald and golden eagles are just waiting for a duck or goose and I'm sure a dead fish to float downstream . Granted it's been awhile since I've hunted down there but geese still showed up with lead pellets in them because I was shooting Kent fast steel .
There's been more than a few tribal members who have been caught with shot eagles in their possession and have gone to a federal prison for it , instead of going through the proper channel's to obtain feathers and parts for their ceremonial garb.
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Re: Eagles and Lead
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02/17/20 10:24 AM
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lee steinmeyer
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i bet lead kills a bunch but theres always a big hole too. pcr2: Tell my WHY would anyone want to kill an Eagle? Tell me why, as a trapper and conservationist, you believe in giving total protection to any animal? That is no different than the antis and their wolf propaganda. That is where this country drops the ball, they decide a few species are "special" or too pretty to die! Everything in this world dies.....sooner or later, and one species is no more special than any other.
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Re: Eagles and Lead
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02/17/20 11:28 AM
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No regulation of any critter equals a anti agenda, you can bank on it. Pattern.....
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: Eagles and Lead
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02/17/20 11:37 AM
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We have to use Copper, carry out the guts, or bury the gut pile here in Northern Az. The California Condors can’t handle the lead fragments either. I think that lead poisoning is still the leading cause of death in the CA. Condors.
Last edited by Getting There; 02/17/20 11:37 AM.
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