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Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way #6774419
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Have only used drowner rods a couple of times before and had to barrow them from my father when I need them.
Well I am my father's son and i dont like barrowing anything from anybody but at the same time have a hard time when asked if someone can barrow something of mine. He uses the typical rebar setup in 8 and 10 foot lengths but also has the ability to join rods if he needs. My question is, is there a better way or material I've heard guys using fiberglass rods but I have no idea where they get them, what the life is on them or if they require any special care. The reason I ask is there has to be a better way when it comes to rods, cable and a chains i got down to a science and I have multiple set ups for different situations. But I have one gentleman that calls me every year to take care of a beaver problem and he sets very strict stipulations I'm only allowed to take 5 beaver by drowning rod only my access to the property is by foot only and is about a mile walk from where I park and I have a window from 615am to 740am to be in and out..... if he didn't own the 540 acres I deer hunt on id probably tell him to find someone else..... thoughts.


ďThe farther one gets into the wilderness, the greater is the attraction of its lonely freedom.Ē - President Theodore Roosevelt
Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Swamp Yankee] #6774429
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No deer is worth that.

Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Rat Masterson] #6774435
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Rat that thought has crossed my mind many times. I honestly think he doesnt want the rest of his family to.know what's going on. Shall I dare say they are of the upper upper class kind of family that is well suited for life in the more suburban, urban lifestyle not the rural population 600 lifestyle. parents live here yr round and thier 2 kids have built houses lake side on the same property I think they each appraise at 1.5 -2 million not bad for their weekend home. 2 yrs ago now he had beaver deceiver pipes put in cause they like to watch the beavers until they started to eat the shrubbery now I get to come in all covertly and remove them as long as the kids dont find out.

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ďThe farther one gets into the wilderness, the greater is the attraction of its lonely freedom.Ē - President Theodore Roosevelt
Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Swamp Yankee] #6774439
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Why all the ridiculous stipulations?

I bought my 10' fiberglass rods all set up from Mike kelly on Here. I dont know if he still sells them...but they are very nice with the top set up for double staking and the bottom stop adjustable. I painted mine brown and green. I just didnt like how whit looked in the water.


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Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Swamp Yankee] #6774594
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sounds like your his side chick and only wants ya when he needs something.

you have to take off the dress or dance pretty for him.

your choice,i'd still be laughing at the guy while trapping and hunting somewhere else.









Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Swamp Yankee] #6774601
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You set the terms,not them! If they want a job done then you decide what terms.

Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Swamp Yankee] #6774614
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Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Swamp Yankee] #6774622
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i don't walk in if the landower want beaver or yotes caught, and i dang sure don't let them pick the trapping gear.
i got some drowning rods from trapperjohn on here that are really good rods.


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Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: cotton] #6774638
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Originally Posted by cotton

i got some drowning rods from trapperjohn on here that are really good rods.


thanks for the plug Cotton!

Swampy, mine are 3/8" smooth rod so weigh bout 25% less than normal rebar, BUT you MUST make sure the deep water end is secured well or they can have it up on the bank twisted like a pretzel. It has happened to a couple customers of mine.

In THAT situation, I usually carry or sled the rods into the property ONCE, then leave them so they are there every year when I need them.
If/when that property is lost, carry them out once and for all.
Used that strategy on a few places doing full time ADC work back in those days.

yes, a plastic sled attached to a deer drag harness that hooks to a D-ring at the base of my back, so my hands are free and my legs pull the load...work smarter, not harder.

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Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Swamp Yankee] #6774649
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I know this doesn't answer your question but I'd be telling the guy to kick rocks. I don't mind hiking in but those other rules are outrageous. We wouldn't want his precious lite family to know anything about wildlife management, that would be terrible! cool


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Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Rat Masterson] #6774666
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
No deer is worth that.


x2


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Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Swamp Yankee] #6774671
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Originally Posted by Swamp Yankee
Have only used drowner rods a couple of times before and had to barrow them from my father when I need them.
Well I am my father's son and i dont like barrowing anything from anybody but at the same time have a hard time when asked if someone can barrow something of mine. He uses the typical rebar setup in 8 and 10 foot lengths but also has the ability to join rods if he needs. My question is, is there a better way or material I've heard guys using fiberglass rods but I have no idea where they get them, what the life is on them or if they require any special care. The reason I ask is there has to be a better way when it comes to rods, cable and a chains i got down to a science and I have multiple set ups for different situations. But I have one gentleman that calls me every year to take care of a beaver problem and he sets very strict stipulations I'm only allowed to take 5 beaver by drowning rod only my access to the property is by foot only and is about a mile walk from where I park and I have a window from 615am to 740am to be in and out..... if he didn't own the 540 acres I deer hunt on id probably tell him to find someone else..... thoughts.


tell that dude to fly a kite, high on a hill.

but, to answer your question. carry some tie wire and drowning bags in, and a small shovel. pretty light and works.

i hope you are charging him enough. if i had to carry even a kit beaver back a mile to the truck for an ADC job, I'd charge enough to make the owner consider letting me drive, or either firing me grin


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Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Swamp Yankee] #6774672
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I got my drowner rods from trapper John and they work great.


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Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Swamp Yankee] #6774686
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I'm sorry to see this thread go south.
The OP is looking for some help with a difficult situation.

Some background first. If you notice his location , Connecticut. It is very , very difficult here to get permission to hunt deer here. This is why we have a deer over population problem. To find a piece of land 500 acres to hunt on is just pure gold. I would bet 100 hunters located here would be lined up to get that permission with all the PIA rules and would be glad to get it.

My current location in Connecticut there is no private land that is 500 acres in size unless you drive at least an hour away. A piece of land 10-20 acres here is very hard to find , let alone 500.


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Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Swamp Yankee] #6774697
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Bet there isnít another trapper within 50 miles of you.....that would take care of his problem. Itís my way or the hi-Way


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Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Cragar] #6774717
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Originally Posted by Cragar
I'm sorry to see this thread go south.
The OP is looking for some help with a difficult situation.

Some background first. If you notice his location , Connecticut. It is very , very difficult here to get permission to hunt deer here. This is why we have a deer over population problem. To find a piece of land 500 acres to hunt on is just pure gold. I would bet 100 hunters located here would be lined up to get that permission with all the PIA rules and would be glad to get it.

My current location in Connecticut there is no private land that is 500 acres in size unless you drive at least an hour away. A piece of land 10-20 acres here is very hard to find , let alone 500.

The thread is like all of them ... a little hash with a little truth... He could try mike kelly a member here...I did tell the OP that I liked my Fglass rods


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Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Nessmuck] #6774828
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Originally Posted by Nessmuck
Bet there isnít another trapper within 50 miles of you.....that would take care of his problem. Itís my way or the hi-Way

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Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Swamp Yankee] #6774851
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Cant use 330's if not are there any half way straight trees you can use for poles attach wire or cable for a drowner to the bottom end and top end shove in mud and secure on the bank Some oldtimers used a dead spruce with the limbs trimmed of except for a couple nubs down at the bottom to keep the chain ring from coming back up for their drowning poles Hope this helps


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Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Swamp Yankee] #6774869
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I would use the cheapest set up. Paint the rods and hide them there. So, thatís at least one thing you donít have to bring in.

Re: Drowner rods.... gotta be a better way [Re: Swamp Yankee] #6774882
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I work with land owners and see what the terms are and if I do not like there terms are, I walk away. Getting ground to hunt deer comes after. It is him who have the problem not you , If he only wants the number of beaver take out that means he dose not want to have the problem take care of fully. That tells alot there. Also for how is stated to use to drown the animals will work. Depends on what you really want to do. For me I would not deal with someone like that , I also understand for the area you are in,I was brought up in the state of MA and had people like that I dealt with and I know how some part of CT is beside in MA. It did not got any better since I left the area just got worst. It is all up to you what will do .But I would not put up with it from the person they need you more then you need them. When they are the ones with the problem.


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