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Re: Question on sell local buyer or fha [Re: TrapperCarl78] #6775867
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Originally Posted by TrapperCarl78
I just realized all the time I have wasted reading all these stupid comments. I cant help but open a coonman thread though lol

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Re: Question on sell local buyer or fha [Re: coonman220] #6775872
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Coonman, post pics of your fur
We can grade it for you
Then when you sell, you will know if you got cheated
We'll be honest with you
But we can't give advances
So don't ask

Re: Question on sell local buyer or fha [Re: TrapperCarl78] #6775913
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Originally Posted by TrapperCarl78
I just realized all the time I have wasted reading all these stupid comments. I cant help but open a coonman thread though lol


You should go over to Iowa Trappers Talk and see whats going on there then. He is known as Dave.
just.

Re: Question on sell local buyer or fha [Re: coonman220] #6775934
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Coonman apparently you trap for fun. Did you have fun catching those animals and putting them up? Did it feel more like work some days? Is this fun?


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Re: Question on sell local buyer or fha [Re: lobo] #6775957
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Originally Posted by lobo
Originally Posted by coonman220
Groenwold has said that bought all nafa fur

Coonman is not entirely wrong. Groeny's route buyer told me that they bought a lot of NAFA'S holdover coon just recently. I can't remember the exact number but is was over 100,000 at 6.00. This was before everything went south in the coon market.



That means NAFA was the middle-man for Canadians to sell their fur to Groeny.

That's halirious!

Re: Question on sell local buyer or fha [Re: coonman220] #6775960
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Not at all,groeny paid current market price for leftover junk,mostly from the US I bet,and probably dealer lots that didnt sell because of unrealistic limits because they overpaid trappers for it.
With all the leftover and unsold fur there from the market downturn,I have 2 marten that didnt sell out of about 500 skins because I dont send garbage to the auction.

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Re: Question on sell local buyer or fha [Re: coonman220] #6775962
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Ha, it shoots the hole in " send to auction and skip the middleman" that's posted on about every Groeny thread.
This isn't the first time I've heard he bought from the auction houses either.

Re: Question on sell local buyer or fha [Re: coonman220] #6775964
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If groney bought 100,000 coon they sure weren't caught In Canada. And what those route men tell you, you can take with a grain of salt. And I'm on a salt free diet. LOL


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Re: Question on sell local buyer or fha [Re: coonman220] #6775967
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Not at all,unless he is buying the junk that nobody else wants anyway,he is competing against other international buyers and will be paying more than if he bought off a stooge at the rat wagon.
Groeny also sells at the international auctions,he even had fur at a european auction.

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Re: Question on sell local buyer or fha [Re: coonman220] #6775973
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And when auction goers posted their results last year, almost to a man they said..... "And my better stuff didn't sell".

Re: Question on sell local buyer or fha [Re: coonman220] #6775977
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All my good fur sold.
If you know how the auctions work,top lots are held back to protect the basis on a down market.


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Re: Question on sell local buyer or fha [Re: coonman220] #6775979
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Your special tho Boco,

Re: Question on sell local buyer or fha [Re: yumm] #6775981
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Originally Posted by yumm
YOU TRAP , YOU HAVE FUN AND YOU SELL YOUR FUR EACH YEAR TO A BUYER FACE TO FACE. IN THIS DEPRESSED MARKET THATS WHAT YOU DO COONMAN.



This is exactly what I do. If you live in the South that is about all you are going to get out of trapping is fun so just do it and have fun. Let the rest go. Let it Go!!
This is why still catch and put up coons for $1.90 Ave like this year. You know what? I’m going to do it again next year because it’s fun to me! It’s relaxing. Is it a lot of work scraping and boarding 100 coons? Yes!! But, to me, it is also fun and relaxing. You will never shame me or bully me away from doing it by calling me names or making fun of me so do it all you want. Lol. I’ll laugh right along with you.
So my advice is just trap, sell it for whatever you can get. And let the rest go. Thus have fun!!!!

Re: Question on sell local buyer or fha [Re: coonman220] #6775986
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Everyone wants to get the best price possible for their work.Even when having fun.
The auctions generally arent attractive to people who are desparate for instant gratification(money).
I can see local buyers providing a service or outlet for those who are not finished trappers(those that never learned how to put up fur)

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Re: Question on sell local buyer or fha [Re: coonman220] #6775991
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I will agree with you on that point Boco. But some can’t have fun if that best possible price is $1.90 per hide. Lol
I can. Lol

Re: Question on sell local buyer or fha [Re: coonman220] #6775995
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I agree with you Otterdog.
Lots of different reasons to trap.
If one is mainly trapping for the outdoor experience,and for their own use,money is less relevant.

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Re: Question on sell local buyer or fha [Re: Boco] #6776000
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Originally Posted by Boco
Everyone wants to get the best price possible for their work.Even when having fun.
The auctions generally arent attractive to people who are desparate for instant gratification(money).
I can see local buyers providing a service or outlet for those who are not finished trappers(those that never learned how to put up fur)


They are also good for trappers with a short window to catch and it's more profitable for them to keep running instead of skinning.

Re: Question on sell local buyer or fha [Re: coonman220] #6776005
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That feeds into the quick gratification scenario,since freezers are commonly available to hold fur until trapping is done and you have time to put the fur up.
I agree that meeting a deadline to market fur can be critical in some market situations.Example,the coyote market is hot and has been for a while,it would be prudent to sell as soon as possible.On the other hand putting up the fur really opens up your options for getting the best price possible as you will be able to ship your pelts to be intersorted at the auction.

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Re: Question on sell local buyer or fha [Re: coonman220] #6776013
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Say you travel down here to trap Iowa coon. Your in a motel room, now where to skin, let alone dispose of the carcasses properly.

You seem to look at things through a tunnel. There are lots of examples where country buyers are needed.

I'm with ya that if possible, when you finnish your catch it's more options for ya.
I've always finished my catch, just been taught that way since a little duffer but I also can see why some dont.

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Re: Question on sell local buyer or fha [Re: coonman220] #6776024
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I haven't been in trapping that long. Got started in 2012, sold in 2013. Coons were doing pretty good, even MO coons. Put-up coons ave. about $22, green ave about $15. And that was every coon that could be caught, blue, slate, small, all of it. Prices pretty well started going down from there. Not surprising since a lot of junk fur was bought, and a surplus was being created. At the time, word around here was Russia was the big buyer. Coon skin coats were a favorite of Russians as I understood it. Then the sanctions started. But, China was still buying, so all hope wasn't lost. Then China put a tariff on imported wild fur, or something to that effect. So we had to adjust our price so China could still afford to buy them with the added import tariff put on by their government. During all this, we have the ranch mink boom/bust come in and destroy it's own market through overproduction, which also reduced demand and prices for wild fur. There have been a lot of reasons for the decline in the fur market. The biggest reason over-all is the strength of the dollar and who can use our dollar. World economics determines what your fur is worth.

If we see coon prices, and the prices of other wild fur, return to the prices previously seen, it most likely means that we're gonna be paying more for goods in our own lives. Remember oil needs to be at $70 a barrel for the Russian economy to absorb those high coon prices. Sanctions mean in simple terms, "you can't spend our dollars with us". When coons hit $25 each again, gas won't be $2, and we'll be in open trade with Russia and China. JMO


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