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Barr no friend of mine or the 2nd amendment #6776538
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https://gunowners.org/bill-barr-needs-to-answer-for-his-role-in-ruby-ridge/
William Barr seems to get a lot of support here. But he is no friend of the 2nd and the fact he defended the FBI sniping in the Ruby Ridge incident is disturbing!


And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement!
Re: Barr no friend of mine or the 2nd amendment [Re: .204] #6776542
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Things that make ya say, HUH!


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Barr no friend of mine or the 2nd amendment [Re: .204] #6776549
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This will be deleted about as quick as other threads that are non pro for a certain party. Can’t be true.

Re: Barr no friend of mine or the 2nd amendment [Re: .204] #6776559
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Nothing to do with party here, just anti gun.


And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement!
Re: Barr no friend of mine or the 2nd amendment [Re: .204] #6776563
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Originally Posted by jwill
Nothing to do with party here, just anti gun.

So you don’t believe that democrats are associated with being anti gun?

Re: Barr no friend of mine or the 2nd amendment [Re: Andy27] #6776564
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Originally Posted by Andy27
Originally Posted by jwill
Nothing to do with party here, just anti gun.

So you don’t believe that democrats are associated with being anti gun?

Doesn't matter, the OP didn't mention party, just anti 2nd.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Barr no friend of mine or the 2nd amendment [Re: .204] #6776593
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So he was hired or assigned to defend a guy how is that his thoughts and not the job he had to do or was hired to do?


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Re: Barr no friend of mine or the 2nd amendment [Re: .204] #6776602
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Ill have to look at another story. The way I understand it is he defended him for free, not as part of his job.


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Re: Barr no friend of mine or the 2nd amendment [Re: .204] #6776607
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Then you need to figure out the reason it might not be that simple that he must be this or that he could of done for a number of reasons look where he’s at now for example.


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Left hates Barr!!!!!!!

Enough said

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I would not consider GOA a left leaning organization. The guy has some issues. Regardless of his job, to make excuses for an agency that sniped unarmed citizens is wrong.


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Nobody was saying anything just looking for facts to back your statements that you don’t seem to have, your just throwing blanket statements out there for others to do the work for you.


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Actually I simply posted an article from GOA. I don't see you posting any refutation of what the article states. If it is in fact fallacious I would be happy to disavow it.


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Keep it about Barr and the 2nd and the post will stay.



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Barr statement on 2nd

So which is it?


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Barr is no different than anyone else in government. He has an agenda. His supporters hear what they want to hear and believe what they want to believe. Believe this, Barr is ultimately in charge of the FBI and ATF. Bad news.

I don't trust him. His actions so far demonstrate a lack of objectivity and integrity. His comments on Heller are nuanced but troubling.

He is a fed and appears to be the worst kind--one that cares more about the power of the federal government, not the constitution.

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It appears to be a conundrum. Actions speak louder than words and there is reason for concern relative to Barr's actions in the Ruby Ridge incident. On the other hand, there is quite a bit to be assured about in his confirmation hearing testimony. Something to keep in mind is that Barr had a job to do as AG during RR, and there are times when doing your job means doing things you might not believe should be done, but that's the job and it's your responsibility to do them. That could also mean making sure everyone charged had fair representation.

What I have observed of Barr as the AG in the Trump administration is a very competent and measured man intent on justice. Until I see something different from him I will feel confident that he does not have an anti-2nd Amendment agenda.

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I dont trust anyone holding an elected office to protect any of my rights. I do trust that the majority of my fellow country men and women still want to be free people. So long as we demand our rights, so long as we are willing to bear arms to defend them, we will keep them.

I am hoping for and expecting, the supremes to loosen up gun control laws in states like CA, IL, MA, NY, CT, and NJ. I don't really trust them to uphold constitutional doctrine like shall not be infringed but the last few years they have affirmed peoples right to defend themselves.


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Re: Barr no friend of mine or the 2nd amendment [Re: Drifter] #6777150
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Originally Posted by Drifter
Barr statement on 2nd

So which is it?


Drifter this text is from your link.

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And so there is no question under Heller that the right to have weapons, firearms, is protected under the Second Amendment and is a personal right. At the same time there is room for reasonable regulation.




Although I have no formed opinion if Barr believes in the second amendment in the same context as I do terms like "reasonable regulation" always make me a little nervous and I feel that we should look at a person's actions as an indicator not their words.

Red flag laws give me great pause.


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I realize that States are making their own red flag laws but I'm sure they do it with glee knowing the sitting AG is behind them with support. Tag that with his position on "reasonable regulation" and I would say he's not our buddy when it comes to the 2nd. From what I see, he's pushing for gun control. LINK


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