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Golden Triangle Coon Boundary #6777288
02/20/20 01:40 PM
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So, I referenced the golden triangle coon area previously in another thread. I have trapped coon from North Dakota to Mississippi and seen first hand the differences. There was an article published years ago but I can not remember the boundaries of this better quality raccoon pelts. Can some of you remember that article and help me with the associated boundaries?

Re: Golden Triangle Coon Boundary [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #6777299
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This is the area I have always roughly associated as the "Golden Triangle" of the best raccoons when I have heard of it referred to.

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Re: Golden Triangle Coon Boundary [Re: ~ADC~] #6777301
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
This is the area I have always roughly associated as the "Golden Triangle" of the best raccoons when I have heard of it referred to.

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Same. Stretching a little more west though.

Re: Golden Triangle Coon Boundary [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #6777310
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Interesting...….I always thought it was much bigger and included parts of the eastern Dakotas, more of Iowa and Minnesota......

Re: Golden Triangle Coon Boundary [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #6777317
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Yes, that is the region called the "golden triangle". These coon are big, but also have good color. Coon in the Dakotas/western MN may run bigger, but lack the color for the most part, and have a "whoolier" under fur.

Re: Golden Triangle Coon Boundary [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #6777323
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It's wherever the crowing Canuck and his hairy bible says it is.


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Re: Golden Triangle Coon Boundary [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #6777326
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Same with Michigan coon.


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Re: Golden Triangle Coon Boundary [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #6777347
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I will say this - I learned even the young of the year coon in North Dakota were much bigger than many of our average coon in Missouri. I would say overall color was better as well. I put up over a hundred coon in North Dakota one year (numbers are not great up there) and only a few were under 30". It totally amazed me at the growth potential and obvious genetic difference in the growth rates up there.

Re: Golden Triangle Coon Boundary [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #6777363
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i thought golden triangle meant they been denned too long.









Re: Golden Triangle Coon Boundary [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #6777373
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Up here we got the Swedish Triangle, but it's just one township.


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Re: Golden Triangle Coon Boundary [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #6777375
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And it's square. Like a Polish triangle.


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Re: Golden Triangle Coon Boundary [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #6777379
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Its like the bermuda triangle-nobody really knows.


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Re: Golden Triangle Coon Boundary [Re: Boco] #6777386
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Originally Posted by Boco
Its like the bermuda triangle-nobody really knows.


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Re: Golden Triangle Coon Boundary [Re: Boco] #6777389
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Good to know. My coons come from the tin hexagon to the east of that area. ioi

Seriously about how much (many miles) is the area where the semi-heavies are concentrated. I remember some years ago when color was a huge factor a lot of Kansas and Nebraska coons sold very well and I was under the assumption many areas there produced semi-heavy type coons.
Also for my collections the western northerns are my highest valued typically. Are western-semis more like western northerns then north centrals are? Most of my coons sell as north centrals most seasons.

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Re: Golden Triangle Coon Boundary [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #6777395
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Like all things, this is a generalization and it is wrong, as there are species shift. In my location we have huge coon, but from the west there is a prairie raccoon which is light brown. These mix in breeding with the black guard hair raccoon, which are the well furred and wonderful quality racoon.
There are factors in this too in location, as in drainage of major waterways, food and yes background color. A raccoon that is out in the sun, with a white and brown prairie is going to be lighter in color just as human hair bleaches out. For that matter a coon in woods and with dark colored soils is going to be darker.

This Red and Minnesota River drainage, which flows down to the Gulf and up to Hudson's Bay is a divide on fur. It is better quality, mink are outstanding, it is larger and the colors are appealing. For fox I used to catch a reddish yellow with black guard hairs on the Dakota side, and a gorgeous cherry red with white highlights on the Minnesota side.
Coyotes started out here those horrid brown things, while the Dakotas had the pale Montana types. What is appearing now is a light tan type. This population shift took decades, but it proves that animals do move. I know my Grandfather informed me there were not any raccoons in this area until the 1930's, when the first coons appeared. That was the last of the wolves being taken out and the coyotes were gladly exterminated.

Just keep in mind, there are always fur subspecies pockets and genus types do move as trends push species in and out, from agriculture, to housing to a distemper culling the animals and another group moves in.

Without insulting Southern fur, having seen it, I wonder why people bother with it, but the same holds for most lower 48 fur compared to the luxurious furs parts of Canada still produces and into Alaska.

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We trap in the bronze triangle here, but they consider us part of Appalachia and we get subsidies, so we average 122.00 per coon.


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It is my understanding was the fur buyers, buying coons from all regions, who originally defined the "triangle" not the trappers in the region.

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Re: Golden Triangle Coon Boundary [Re: rats4me] #6777421
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Originally Posted by rats4me
It's wherever the crowing Canuck and his hairy bible says it is.




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