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Re: Chain drowners [Re: white marlin] #6494117
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Nessy,

is the s-hook at the T-bar necessary? why not just use an open J-hook right at the swivel?


I guess that would be ok....and less work....but ..if something can go wrong...it will go wrong...just saying


It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Re: Chain drowners [Re: dustytinner] #6494358
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So what do u use for top end stake ? I normally use 1/2 rerod with nut head an 12 or 15 inches long an terminal end I use. 1/2 t- bar in 2ft or 30 inch long, sometimes I cross stake 2 - t- bar, would that stake system work on chain drowners or they normally used with weight at terminal end ?

Re: Chain drowners [Re: dustytinner] #6494375
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Dave ??, this isn't Ness, but he's showing you a picture of the top of his drowner system...…..it's the Tbar, with swivel/jhook then S hook to chain...…...that's the top end of his system/rig.
Nice set up Ness!

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Re: Chain drowners [Re: Nessmuck] #6494528
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Originally Posted by Nessmuck
Originally Posted by white marlin
Nessy,

is the s-hook at the T-bar necessary? why not just use an open J-hook right at the swivel?


I guess that would be ok....and less work....but ..if something can go wrong...it will go wrong...just saying


10-4.

I just thought that without the S-hook (attaching the tightened chain right to the J-hook, itself), there would be one less "failure point".

really like your set-up!

Re: Chain drowners [Re: dustytinner] #6494742
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I made my own locks out of 1" square tubing. They lock up tight.


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Re: Chain drowners [Re: Green Bay] #6494827
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Originally Posted by Green Bay
I made my own locks out of 1" square tubing. They lock up tight.


Yup...those work too.


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Re: Chain drowners [Re: dustytinner] #6494981
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I trap the same areas every year so I hide the 3/4 ton brakes rotors at the same spot every year. As for sliders,someday I may try the chain type but I use 12 ga annealed wire for beaver and never get a kink and seems a lot easier to hold up better than the 11 ga. I have even had a dbl on beaver on the same 12 ga wire with no kinking but on that set I had two brake rotors since they were a tad smaller than truck ones.

Re: Chain drowners [Re: Nessmuck] #6778399
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Thank you for this. What a great idea.


Re: Chain drowners [Re: w side rd 151] #6778401
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Thank you for this. What a great idea.

Thank you I will try to look for this.


Re: Chain drowners [Re: dustytinner] #6778427
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I've been toying around with the idea of chain drowners the last couple nights and came up with something I think is inexpensive and simple. I can't post pics until I get home, but the idea is...

Double stake swivel w/ J hook at the shore end
Single hook swivel on a quick link at deep end...this way, you can move the terminal end up or down the chain to suit depth and keep your chain tight.

I also welded up a few locks using 1x1 rectangular tube and 1 x 1/8 flat bar

If you can't stake the terminal end, you can wire up a sandbag filled with rocks/clay/sand on site.


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Re: Chain drowners [Re: slydogx] #6778502
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Originally Posted by slydogx
I've been toying around with the idea of chain drowners the last couple nights and came up with something I think is inexpensive and simple. I can't post pics until I get home, but the idea is...

Double stake swivel w/ J hook at the shore end
Single hook swivel on a quick link at deep end...this way, you can move the terminal end up or down the chain to suit depth and keep your chain tight.

I also welded up a few locks using 1x1 rectangular tube and 1 x 1/8 flat bar

If you can't stake the terminal end, you can wire up a sandbag filled with rocks/clay/sand on site.

The way Ive done chains Exactly...2 anchor holes on top , about 8' down the chain is a quick link. Making where I anchor to the rock/sand bag adjustable in length. My Locks though are like pictured above out of 1" conduit.


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Re: Chain drowners [Re: dustytinner] #6778509
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Can someone please post a pic.

Re: Chain drowners [Re: dustytinner] #6778551
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Chain drowners on 10ft rebar rods with Bauer locks, you guys carrying rotors and cement blocks are making this to hard for cheap beaver

Re: Chain drowners [Re: 080808] #6778564
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Originally Posted by 080808
Can someone please post a pic.

Scroll up^^^ Nessmuck has great pictures of the Set up...easy to make also.


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Re: Chain drowners [Re: dustytinner] #6778577
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Opps. Thanks

Re: Chain drowners [Re: dustytinner] #6778642
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so...how much water depth does one need to drown beaver, and how much weight do you need?

Thanks!

Re: Chain drowners [Re: Coyote Chaser] #6778702
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Originally Posted by Coyote Chaser
Chain drowners on 10ft rebar rods with Bauer locks, you guys carrying rotors and cement blocks are making this to hard for cheap beaver


You're telling me. I need to find 10' rebar. Where might I find this in upstate NY for good price?


Re: Chain drowners [Re: dustytinner] #6778741
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The deep water end has a rotor hanger on it in the pic, but I have added a single stake swivel on a quick link since.
I'm just putzing around with ideas because I'm stuck in town now and don't have as much opportunity to actually trap... it's not serious, just a science project LOL


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Re: Chain drowners [Re: white marlin] #6778758
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Originally Posted by white marlin
so...how much water depth does one need to drown beaver, and how much weight do you need?

Thanks!


About 4 feet of water.....and one 3/4 ton pick up brake rotor does the trick. I have spots that I go back to each year or every other year....and I just hide the rotor ( and hopefully I can remember where I put it ) .


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Re: Chain drowners [Re: dustytinner] #6778763
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thanks, Nessmuck!

not owning a 3/4 ton pickup...what would you GUESS the weight of the brake rotor to be? (I'll be filling sand bags)

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