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Re: End of the war in Afghanistan? [Re: walleyed] #6787291
02/29/20 08:57 AM
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If we pulled out of that rat hole completely (except for some clandestine - CIA presence) and directed all the resources elsewhere until needed
I think would be a good approach. Money spent on intelligence and precision strikes would be well spent. If there is a bit of collateral damage, so be it.
Those folks don't want a truce, never have - never will.

Zim

Re: End of the war in Afghanistan? [Re: jctunnelrat] #6787298
02/29/20 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by jctunnelrat
Originally Posted by kingrat
So after 20 years your finally admitting defeat?

Americans never admit defeat... Ask any Southerner, they still don't know the Civil War is over.
ps. One can't lose a war if it isn't over.


The Southerners call it the war of northern aggression.


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Re: End of the war in Afghanistan? [Re: Mike in A-town] #6787311
02/29/20 09:14 AM
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Get out now don't look back , we had no valid reason for being there in the first place . that's my opinion !


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Re: End of the war in Afghanistan? [Re: Mike in A-town] #6787317
02/29/20 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
Originally Posted by Boco
Taliban?LOL.


Well generally peace talks are held with the bunch you're fighting...

I'd put a clause in the agreement that any more terror attacks by person's trained in Afghanistan will render the agreement null and void and if so the US will come back and kill every living thing within the border... And then spread salt 6 inches deep over the landscape so nothing will ever live there again.

But that's just me.

Mike

We should do this first then broker peace. Any agreement with a Muslim entity be it a country or organization isn't worth the paper it's written on. The only way to ever have true peace with a any Islamic organization or government is to wipe them from the face of the earth.

Last edited by Finster; 02/29/20 09:17 AM.

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Re: End of the war in Afghanistan? [Re: James] #6787329
02/29/20 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by James
What BS. When have I ever bad-mouthed the US?

No, that one is beyond BS. It's a dammed lie.

Jim


When you badmouth the duly elected president,
by extension, you badmouth our country.

At the very least, you badmouth all republican presidents,
where in the case of the Vietnam War, you should
be laying the blame at the feet of Democrats
Kennedy & Johnson who got us into it
and then escalated.

All in my opinion, of course.

w

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Re: End of the war in Afghanistan? [Re: Mike in A-town] #6787363
02/29/20 09:54 AM
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I just wish we would have Armageddon and get everything over with ……….

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Re: End of the war in Afghanistan? [Re: Mike in A-town] #6787381
02/29/20 10:15 AM
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“If you fail to learn from history you are doomed to repeat it.” Alexander the Great, Kublia Khan , the Soviet Union, and now the USA have gotten caught up in that hole called Afghanistan. Obama campaigned on ending that war, couldn’t do it and he was the Dems hero.Now Pre. trump wants to end it and the Dems want to stay, ??

Bring all troops home from the Middle East and put them on our southern border.

Re: End of the war in Afghanistan? [Re: Mike in A-town] #6787384
02/29/20 10:18 AM
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Quote
you should
be laying the blame at the feet of Democrats
Kennedy & Johnson who got us into it



how dare you bad mouth our country


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Re: End of the war in Afghanistan? [Re: James] #6787387
02/29/20 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by James
It will be a deal like Nixon brokered in Viet Nam. The North Vietnamese really kept that deal, didn't they?

Jim


Or maybe worse, like the deal Obama made with Iran, when he shipped them piles of cash off the books.

Re: End of the war in Afghanistan? [Re: walleyed] #6787388
02/29/20 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by walleyed
Originally Posted by James
What BS. When have I ever bad-mouthed the US?

No, that one is beyond BS. It's a dammed lie.

Jim


When you badmouth the duly elected president,
by extension, you badmouth our country.


At the very least, you badmouth all republican presidents,
where in the case of the Vietnam War, you should
be laying the blame at the feet of Democrats
Kennedy & Johnson who got us into it
and then escalated.

All in my opinion, of course.

w

I disagree. You can bad mouth a duly elected president. I see no correlation to bad mouthing the country. Obama was certainly an American hating scumbag that did his best to destroy the country in 8 long dark years. It doesn't mean I hate my country. It just means I think the President was an incompetent buffoon as well as the morons that voted for him. However, that's me. Since we are talking about James, who knows? He certainly has zero respect for much of anything in the way of decency, so him hating the country is not a stretch, if it is at all wrong. All liberals' know is hate and misery, just look at them. When they have no reason to hate, they make stuff up.

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Re: End of the war in Afghanistan? [Re: Mike in A-town] #6787391
02/29/20 10:26 AM
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I have not read all the post, it will just be another Country that we have to rebuild or support or give add to for the rest of there lives. JMO


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Re: End of the war in Afghanistan? [Re: Mike in A-town] #6787402
02/29/20 10:33 AM
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Peace deal with fanatics is a waste of time they have no honor.


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Re: End of the war in Afghanistan? [Re: walleyed] #6787403
02/29/20 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by walleyed



When you badmouth the duly elected president,
by extension, you badmouth our country.

At the very least, you badmouth all republican presidents,
where in the case of the Vietnam War, you should
be laying the blame at the feet of Democrats
Kennedy & Johnson who got us into it
and then escalated.


All in my opinion, of course.

w

Much more than that. almost all of the major wars have happened under or because of DemoRats. The exception would be the 1st and 2nd gulf wars. Other than that:
Civil war- DemoRats attack
WWI -Wilson
WWII- Roosevelt
Cold War- Roosevelt &Truman
Korea- Truman
Cuban missile Crisis (almost killed us all) - Kennedy
Vietnam- Kennedy- Johnson
Other than Gulf 1&2 the major mess in the middle east in these modern times can be attributed to Obama and Hillary for destabilizing Libya and Syria while shunning Israel.
DemoRats have no idea how to use diplomacy and there foreign policy has always been horrible.


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Re: End of the war in Afghanistan? [Re: Rat Masterson] #6787448
02/29/20 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
They been working on it with the Taliban. They should be trustworthy.

Psych!!!


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Re: End of the war in Afghanistan? [Re: Squash] #6787490
02/29/20 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Squash
“If you fail to learn from history you are doomed to repeat it.” Alexander the Great, Kublia Khan , the Soviet Union, and now the USA have gotten caught up in that hole called Afghanistan.


Don't forget to mention the British empire !!! laugh

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Re: End of the war in Afghanistan? [Re: Mike in A-town] #6787502
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Yep to OP. I wonder what the blue will have to hate on this for. One can only imagine what hate they will have, and the end is what they wanted from the start. Negative and hate will follow from media on the red.


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Re: End of the war in Afghanistan? [Re: furgotten] #6787504
02/29/20 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by furgotten
Get out now don't look back , we had no valid reason for being there in the first place . that's my opinion !


The reason was to kill or capture Bin Laden. Who knew it was going to take 20 years and cost so much?


Who is John Galt?
Re: End of the war in Afghanistan? [Re: walleyed] #6787767
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Originally Posted by walleyed
Originally Posted by kingrat
So after 20 years your finally admitting defeat?


What would your "Vaunted" Canadian Military do if faced with the same
situation after a Canadian 9/11 event ?

Heck,

You hosers can't even keep a few Indians off the railroad tracks
while you're trying to build pipeline infrastructure through British Columbia.

Don't lecture us while you have Justin Trudeau running the show up there.

ROTFFALMFAO !!!!! laugh

w

Hmm not sure what we would do, we've never lost a war so hard to say.

Re: End of the war in Afghanistan? [Re: Mike in A-town] #6787770
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I'm bugging you guys obviously. I dont think you ever should of had boots on the ground there. No american or Canadian lives were worth it.

Re: End of the war in Afghanistan? [Re: Mike in A-town] #6787791
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Image if we put just a fraction of the money spent on this war towards schools, infrastructure, healthcare, etc. What a waste of time and life.

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