Re: End of the war in Afghanistan?
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Hmm not sure what we would do, we've never lost a war so hard to say.
I offer as Exhibit: A....... Canada's sound whipping during the War of 1812 at the hands of the fledgling United States of America. You've been hiding behind the skirt tails of Lady Liberty ever since then. If It wasn't for the United States, you'd be speaking either German or Russian. w
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Re: End of the war in Afghanistan?
[Re: Mike in A-town]
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Pullout we can always bomb them later.
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Re: End of the war in Afghanistan?
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Image if we put just a fraction of the money spent on this war towards schools, infrastructure, healthcare, etc. What a waste of time and life. Or cut taxes or reduce deficit.
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Re: End of the war in Afghanistan?
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Hmm not sure what we would do, we've never lost a war so hard to say.
I offer as Exhibit: A....... Canada's sound whipping during the War of 1812 at the hands of the fledgling United States of America. You've been hiding behind the skirt tails of Lady Liberty ever since then. If It wasn't for the United States, you'd be speaking either German or Russian. w I thought boco settled this one already? Anyway a quick google search claims the opposite.
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Re: End of the war in Afghanistan?
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Get out now don't look back , we had no valid reason for being there in the first place . that's my opinion ! The reason was to kill or capture Bin Laden. Who knew it was going to take 20 years and cost so much? oh really , could have done all that and more for a whole lot less in lost lives and money , don't ya think !
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Re: End of the war in Afghanistan?
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The only war the US ever won without help was Granada GRENADA,lol. Fixed it for you, BOCOCanadians can't fight or win wars, and they can't spell either !!!! w
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Re: End of the war in Afghanistan?
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The only war the US ever won without help was Granada,lol. Granada is a flippin' bird.........The granada dove.........not a war !!! w
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Re: End of the war in Afghanistan?
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On October 7, 2001, a U.S.-led coalition begins attacks on Taliban-controlled Afghanistan with an intense bombing campaign by American and British forces. Logistical support was provided by other nations including France, Germany, Australia and Canada and, later, troops were provided by the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance rebels. The invasion of Afghanistan was the opening salvo in the United States “war on terrorism” and a response to the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, D.C.
Dubbed “Operation Enduring Freedom” in U.S. military parlance, the invasion of Afghanistan was intended to target terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaida organization, which was based in the country, as well as the extreme fundamentalist Taliban government that had ruled most of the country since 1996 and supported and protected al-Qaida. The Taliban, which had imposed its extremist version of Islam on the entire country, also perpetrated countless human rights abuses against its people, especially women, girls and ethnic Hazaras. During their rule, large numbers of Afghans lived in utter poverty, and as many as 4 million Afghans are thought to have suffered from starvation.
In the weeks prior to the invasion, both the United States and the U.N. Security Council had demanded that the Taliban turn over Osama bin Laden for prosecution. After deeming the Taliban’s counteroffers unsatisfactory—among them to try bin Laden in an Islamic court—the invasion began with an aerial bombardment of Taliban and al-Qaida installations in Kabul, Kandahar, Jalalabad, Konduz and Mazar-e-Sharif. Other coalition planes flew in airdrops of humanitarian supplies for Afghan civilians. The Taliban called the actions “an attack on Islam.” In a taped statement released to the Arabic al-Jazeera television network, Osama bin Laden called for a war against the entire non-Muslim world.
After the air campaign softened Taliban defenses, the coalition began a ground invasion, with Northern Alliance forces providing most of the troops and the U.S. and other nations giving air and ground support. On November 12, a little over a month after the military action began, Taliban officials and their forces retreated from the capital of Kabul. By early December, Kandahar, the last Taliban stronghold, had fallen and Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar went into hiding rather than surrender. Al-Qaida fighters continued to hide out in Afghanistan’s mountainous Tora Bora region, where they were engaged by anti-Taliban Afghan forces, backed by U.S. Special Forces troops. Al-Qaida soon initiated a truce, which is now believed to have been a ploy to allow Osama bin Laden and other key al-Qaida members time to escape into neighboring Pakistan. By mid-December, the bunker and cave complex used by al-Qaida at Tora Bora had been captured, but there was no sign of bin Laden.
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Re: End of the war in Afghanistan?
[Re: Mike in A-town]
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We’ve been in there 19 years. Over 2300 dead, 20,000 wounded. Costs of over $800 billion. I’m not sure that you couldn’t spend another 20 years there and you would still would be facing the same stalemate. My son in law did two tours in Afghanistan, and didn’t see much light at the end of the tunnel.
I believe the country would soon revert back to their tribal ways when we pull out. It is an untamed land, and hard to conquer. Just ask the Russians.
When Nixon withdrew US forces from South Vietnam in 1973, few had little doubt that the NVA and Vietcong would overrun the ARVN in the south. In the spring of 1975, when the capitulation in the south was at hand, Congress had little interest in refighting a war that seemed to have no end. Trump said today that if things go south in the region, we’ll return with a vengeance. He would do well to follow what Gerald Ford did, and stay out of reentering the fray.
As the last helicopters left the US embassy roof, Tom Polgar, the CIA station chief in Saigon in April 1975 said in his last radio dispatch.....”Those who fail to learn from history are forced to repeat it. Let us hope that we will not have another Vietnam experience and that we have learned our lesson. Saigon signing off”. It’s time to sign off from Afghanistan.
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