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Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: jbyrd63] #6795394
03/08/20 11:18 AM
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If nothing else comes of this whole virus scare, I have seen what the mass media will do to encode needless fear in people and economic strife upon the market.
Bottom line, we have far surpassed the earth’s carrying capacity of a human population. Population overloads lead to disease.


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Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: jbyrd63] #6795396
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Stone age people eating raw bats and snakes in a space age world doesnt help either.


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Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: Boco] #6795419
03/08/20 12:34 PM
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The virus will make the unveiling of Bolton's book a back page issue.

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Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: Archeryguy] #6795425
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Originally Posted by Archeryguy
I also believe that wide spread testing will lower the mortality rate percentage. One aspect of this virus is the fact that it is new, no historical immunity to lessen the effect and that viruses tend to mutate. The Spanish Flue had two waves in 1917-1918. The first was relatively benign, the 2nd wave was a mutated virus that killed by some estimates as many as 50 million. Granted, there were political aspects due to WWI and troop movement around the world obviously contributed to the spread. Medical care was no where near the standards we have today. I ignore all of the FOX/CNN/MSNBC crap and go directly to the CDC, HHS and WHO. These people are worried and they have no political dog in the fight. The fact that they are worried in turn causes me to worry. I thinkpeople should not jump to any conclusions either way and just stay informed. The best news out there is that this is not particularly dangerous to our most cherished citizens....the children. The Spanish Flu on the other hand was particularly dangerous to young people.


NO this won't change a thing. EVEN when the patient test positive the treatment doesn't change. THER IS NOT A PILL or shot that can be given to combat the symptoms Test 1000's of people and it won't change a thing as for the out come of who lives or dies.
GETTING IT IS NOT AN automatic death sentence !!!!
Like the news wants to make out

Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: Boco] #6795430
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Originally Posted by Boco
Stone age people eating raw bats and snakes in a space age world doesnt help either.


Yep, and sadly what you said is over most people's head.

Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: jbyrd63] #6795431
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Yea people are wiping and swiping for little or no good. The virus and MOST germs can only survive for a maxiumum of 24 hours on a hard dry surface. The bacteria need liquid and a host to reproduce.

ALSO ANY UV light renders ALL BACTERIA sterile. In waste water treatment plant lots are going to black lights to disinfect. CHLORINE is why too deadly for some cases. Disenfecting liquids and sprays KILL the germs. where UV light renders it sterile so it can't multiply. Simply installing uv lights over entrances and inside subway cars and planes will cut down on ALL airborne germs . Even on hard surfaces and peoples skin.

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Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: jbyrd63] #6795433
03/08/20 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Originally Posted by Archeryguy
I also believe that wide spread testing will lower the mortality rate percentage. One aspect of this virus is the fact that it is new, no historical immunity to lessen the effect and that viruses tend to mutate. The Spanish Flue had two waves in 1917-1918. The first was relatively benign, the 2nd wave was a mutated virus that killed by some estimates as many as 50 million. Granted, there were political aspects due to WWI and troop movement around the world obviously contributed to the spread. Medical care was no where near the standards we have today. I ignore all of the FOX/CNN/MSNBC crap and go directly to the CDC, HHS and WHO. These people are worried and they have no political dog in the fight. The fact that they are worried in turn causes me to worry. I thinkpeople should not jump to any conclusions either way and just stay informed. The best news out there is that this is not particularly dangerous to our most cherished citizens....the children. The Spanish Flu on the other hand was particularly dangerous to young people.


NO this won't change a thing. EVEN when the patient test positive the treatment doesn't change. THER IS NOT A PILL or shot that can be given to combat the symptoms Test 1000's of people and it won't change a thing as for the out come of who lives or dies.
GETTING IT IS NOT AN automatic death sentence !!!!
Like the news wants to make out


Archer guy said widespread testing will lower the mortality rate percentage. He is correct. There are infected people who are not counted among those infected. If 10 people die out of 100 infected that's 10%. But if 10 people die out of a thousand that are identified as infected........that is only one percent


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Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: jbyrd63] #6795440
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Yep, doctors are saying thousands are probably infected and little to no major problems, some thinking it's just a case of mild flu.

If tested, percentage would drop dramatically.

Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: jbyrd63] #6795456
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Yep..So how does the odds work for the Corona Virus II..I heard it was more deadly than Corona Virus I...And to think the Princess Cruise Linear..Is about to port in Oakland California with 3500 exposed...Dang that's some bad odds..


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Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: Chamacat] #6795504
03/08/20 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Chamacat
Yep..So how does the odds work for the Corona Virus II..I heard it was more deadly than Corona Virus I...And to think the Princess Cruise Linear..Is about to port in Oakland California with 3500 exposed...Dang that's some bad odds..


How many out of 3500 have it and how many have died? LLL


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Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: mad_mike] #6795598
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Originally Posted by mad_mike
If nothing else comes of this whole virus scare, I have seen what the mass media will do to encode needless fear in people and economic strife upon the market.

Hopefully a lot of eyes have been opened to that.

Originally Posted by mad_mike
Bottom line, we have far surpassed the earth’s carrying capacity of a human population. Population overloads lead to disease.

Buwahahaha!!! That old commie canard. So sad.
Fact is everyone on Earth could live in Alaska in a large home. Leaving the ENTIRE REST OF THE WORLD empty. We aren't anywhere close to peak land, nor any other resource.

Oh, and more petroleum is created every day than we consume. It's still the best energy source known to mankind, despite what the commie propaganda says.

Should be worried about peak phosphorus though... all life needs it, we waste a lot of it and we haven't figured out how to make it. When it's gone, centuries from now, so is all life on Earth. Figures the one actual crisis gets ignored by the kookadoodle Lefties, while they carry on and on about all their fake ones.


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Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: jbyrd63] #6795613
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^^^^^^^^ In the last 10 years the world population has increased by 12%. The area of Alaska has remained the same. Do us both a favor and stay where you are.

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Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: jbyrd63] #6795616
03/08/20 05:59 PM
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Not one case in SD yet but if there are Federal dollars to be had we might report a few cases to get some dollars~ LOL


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: DuxDawg] #6795622
03/08/20 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DuxDawg
Originally Posted by mad_mike
If nothing else comes of this whole virus scare, I have seen what the mass media will do to encode needless fear in people and economic strife upon the market.

Hopefully a lot of eyes have been opened to that.

Originally Posted by mad_mike
Bottom line, we have far surpassed the earth’s carrying capacity of a human population. Population overloads lead to disease.

Buwahahaha!!! That old commie canard. So sad.
Fact is everyone on Earth could live in Alaska in a large home. Leaving the ENTIRE REST OF THE WORLD empty. We aren't anywhere close to peak land, nor any other resource.

Oh, and more petroleum is created every day than we consume. It's still the best energy source known to mankind, despite what the commie propaganda says.

Should be worried about peak phosphorus though... all life needs it, we waste a lot of it and we haven't figured out how to make it. When it's gone, centuries from now, so is all life on Earth. Figures the one actual crisis gets ignored by the kookadoodle Lefties, while they carry on and on about all their fake ones.



I'd like to know where you got your information.

just

Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: jbyrd63] #6795630
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Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: Law Dog] #6795633
03/08/20 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Not one case in SD yet but if there are Federal dollars to be had we might report a few cases to get some dollars~ LOL

We have just reported a case in Wilton , CT.

I honestly have to think the CT liberal politicians are giddy over this. They have had numerous media events to promote it. Kinda the 'don't let a good crisis to go to waste' . They want this. Another thing to let you know they are in control , let the tax dollars flow. Just like when they were giddy over the money they got from Sandy Hook to build a new school. Media reports showed how they were high-fiving each other (including Obama) over the tax dollars over more gun control at Sandy Hook.

How much sooner will they call for the stop of Trump rallies due to the concentrations of large overflowing crowds. Helps the democratic agenda to stop this before the elections.


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Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: DelawareRob] #6795637
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Originally Posted by DelawareRob



That was the “global warming” of my youth that was the gateway to abortion I believe.


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Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: Law Dog] #6795727
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I doubt very much if the whole world could live in Alaska in a large home. AK is 586,000 sq. miles. There are 7 billion people in the world and that is on the low side. Dividing 7 billion into 586,000 comes out to 18.66 people per acre. With even four in a home not much space with even a 1600 square foot home if you are putting 4-5 of them on an acre. Now multi-level multi-family possible. I don't even know how much of AK could not have a home on it. I am guessing building on thawing tundra or on mountain sides would be complex to say the least.

Bryce

Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: jbyrd63] #6795729
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Originally Posted by mad_mike
Bottom line, we have far surpassed the earth’s carrying capacity of a human population. Population overloads lead to disease.

Buwahahaha!!! That old commie canard. So sad.
Fact is everyone on Earth could live in Alaska in a large home. Leaving the ENTIRE REST OF THE WORLD empty. We aren't anywhere close to peak land, nor any other resource.


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Not buying it. I know we can all snuggle up closer and there are plenty of resources available currently. We are sitting at over 7.75 billion humans currently. https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/.
Total inhabitable land mass of earth is 32,666,000’ish square miles.
Yeah, you can cram them all into 17x17 miles, but really?

Your argument of plenty of room leads to greater propensity for sickness, disease, and plague within ever increasing population densities. Aside from that who will and how will a human population of a few more billion be managed? Current examples are not very promising.

Anyways, cheers!

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Re: Corona mess over hyped [Re: jbyrd63] #6795737
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