A Butt Whoopin is what they need and so does their lazy parents for doping them up..

Lol, I laughed out loud when I read that.

oh and don't forget all the other ones who use the Bi Polar excuse....

Sodium benzoate , and food dyes , especially red 40 reek havoc on a childs brain

Unfortunatly people feel slighted when they leave the doctors office WITHOUT a prescription for a bottle of magic pills

Seems zombieism is easier to deal with

Yes it's real , my youngest son has it , we took him off his medicine about two years ago because starting to control himself , he just turned 15. My wife grandpa had it , his nickname was flea hopper because he couldn't set down when he was a kid.

I and most of my family are ADD/ADDS / ADHD / ADHDS.

fist one must understand what this means.

ADD Attention Deficit Disorder somtmes with S syndrome the H would be hyperactive

it was very miss named 180* backwards

there is no Deficit of attention , most ADD people my self and family included are actually Hyper attention , just not necessarily for what you wanted me to do.

our minds process huge amounts of data , sitting in a restaurant I am listing to the conversation at my table and 2-5 others depending how close they are the worst part is I want is badly to answer the questions at 3 of them but manners dictate I don't.

we can at times pay attention to many inputs while at others we have such total focus that we hear nothing other than what we are doing like welding a bead you hear nothing and see nothing other than what you are doing. what athletes would call in the Zone.

one DR I had said these are traits that would have made us Awesome hunters but don't fit into the school norms , yeah he was very right about that. think about all the thinks you see that other people don't when hunting and trapping you see the animal tracks a belly rub in fresh dew , how the grass is laid over , a rubbed spot on a fence , a few hairs stuck in a fence wire , the pattern of tracks going across the snow you know what made it from a hundred yards.

the H hyperactivity think of a good hunting dog , he has the energy to hunt all day and he is excited to do it , lives for the hunt using his senses and tracking the game. would you want a lathargic dog that wanted to sit around all day as a hunting dog. No

it is very much a Square peg in a Round hole issue say school is a 1 inch round hole and you are a 1 inch square peg you have 4 extra corners , the first corner Energy to go all day working and walking and hunting. second corner you are talking in a hundred inputs great if your hunting not so good if your supposed to be paying attention to the droning slow lesson being taught to the level of the slowest person in the room. you seeing suzy twirl her hair , Danny pick his nose , annie passing notes , Jimmy sleeping and every car that passes on the road out the window , the birds in the tree outside the window. apply other symptoms to the remaining corners.


the most common medication used to treat the symptoms to attempt to wound your corners is Methalphenidate yes i am sure i spelled that wrong aka Speed it makes normal people stay awake for 24 hours soccer moms steal their kids pills and have the energy to stay up all night cleaning he house , college students use it for long hours of cram sessions. but for an ADD ADHD person it makes them tired.
years later I realized why my middle school principal would ask me what he though my Riddalin would do to him if he took it. had to go to the office for an after lunch pill. I told him he would probably fall asleep on his desk not knowing that he was testing me , it made me tired it would have had him running the halls.


why none before 1980?

all of my mothers father and all brothers dropped out of high school all 6 of them none of them were dumb they all did fine in life most had successful businesses construction or mechanic but round hole square peg they didn't fit school they got by till they could get out.

I was diagnosed in the early 80s.

yes there is a lot of miss understanding about ADD / ADHD

before the 80s you did well enough to get by till you could drop out of school , but the push for standardized testing , and 100% graduation rates getting to drop out age at 16 wasn't an option you must now be 18 to drop out.

if you had a hard time concentrating on school work , just barley got by and then went on to do fine in life when you found work you could get into maybe farming , trapping , construction , mechanical anything hat interestes you and keeps your mind and body occupied you could have well be diagnosed as ADD/ADHD.

the reality is if the teachers could teach an ADD class where the info was really well organized and laid out and ran at a fast pace like a video learning lesson where it is really condensed and all right there the ADD kids could often have had the lesson in the first 5 minutes of class and done one of each type of example problem and been out to recess. but when lessons takes hundreds of wasted seconds of writing with squeaky chalk on a black board repetition of doing 12 of one type of problem it is all just places for the mind to get lost doing 12 other things but what the teach wants.

there is something to the mind getting used to taking data at a different pace the tv and internet and endless videos full of content that the mind gets used to proccessing faster but many class rooms are the same so more kids are diagnosed ADD or ADHD.

Giving an Autistic child or a child with ADHD a butt whoopin for acting out would be like giving someone a butt whoopin because they're ignorant.

think about when your driving 75 on the interstate and you get off at an exit and have to drive 25 through a town , it feels like the slowest 25 you have ever driven your mind has been processing at 75mph and now all the input is 1/3 speed it is like talking a 78 record and playing it at 33 everything is soooo slooowwww

so there is sooo much time to get distracted by everything else going on.

I think fetal alchol syndrome is a lot of it people don't want to admit. My ex was pregnant with our youngest while we were going through a divorce. She drank EVERY day. After we were divorced and I had full custody of my kids I knew something was different with him. When he started school they were convinced he was adhd. Spent many hours at Childrens Hospital in Minneapolis with no definite results. He has the facial features and ears associated with it. The school insisted it was adhd and wanted him medicated. We moved and things turned out fine.

I dont know when all the alphabet stuff started,I think in the late 80's early 90's.When we were kids anyone that did not fit in,had abnormal behaviour and was disruptive was just called retarded,and were separated from other kids.Science has come a long way.

Um......there are no facial features of ADHD. Maybe you are thinking of something different.

Honestly find it halarious everyone wants stuff to always be this simple, it's like in trapping when a coyote walks by a set everyone just wants to yell "scent control " and be done with it. Or when someone has depression people just yell "just be happy" not that simple sometimes sorry to bust the bubble

This pretty much sums it up.

I believe it is real and also it is on severity progression line. Like other behavior aspects such as b-polar syndrome, PTSD, depression etc. they too are on severity progressions. These may well have been present for generations but not diagnosed, or do modern day societies and cultures contribute to these behavioral issues? As to medication? There is far more legal depression and anxiety medication given to adults every day then to children and adults also have the means and ability to self-medicate with drugs, legal or illegal and alcohol etc. If our culture creates more cases of this type of behavior it would be wise to find non medication means to change or prevent the behavioral issues. If these are just diagnosed facts of life each individual will need to cope with the behaviors the best they can. Societies typically provide treatments and not ways to modify and change behavior from changing life styles.

Bryce

Excellent post! And you reminded me of the time we gave him Benadryl, lol. It makes me tired, it makes him twice as hyper!! Dye free Benadryl will put him out for the count.

And for all those that think a butt whooping for the child and parents are in order, just shows their ignorance. Sometimes it’s best to keep your mouth shut and let people think your ignorant rather than open your mouth and prove it. Until you experience it you know absolutely nothing about it.

Wow! That's something.

Some kids have behavior issues and it doesn't matter how much you love them, how much time you spend with them, or how much he you pray about it. Their brains are just wired different.

That's why I said most. It was recommended my oldest son be given Ritalin. My wife and I said no. Last we heard about it and he excelled as an older student. Still needs to keep.busy but that's not a bad thing.

Excellent post and great point about routine. Thank you for sharing

Great post. That principal was a smart man.

Good on you for not buying the bs !