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Re: Sold to Groeny this morning [Re: ksp107] #6796195
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red mt, trappers have this misconception that end users HAVE to have wild fur when in fact they simply turn to another alternative if those pelts aren't available. Holding raccoon in hopes of higher prices could very easily completely kill the market, and usage. Other than big, heavy trim coon, the vast majority are used for liners. Anything from cheap wild mink, Angoran rabbit, New Zealand possum, low grade female ranched mink, lamb skin, etc. can be used for liners. Trimmers can be replaced as well.

Re: Sold to Groeny this morning [Re: ksp107] #6796201
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Dave plueger, makes sense the way you spell it out but,,, how do you turn a enough money to break even in your opinion because 4$ and 5$ not going to cut it be its self . Meat market is a help although.

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And Dave if holding fur does not work why is there so much speculation holding fur in storage by brokers and fur buyers ???


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Re: Sold to Groeny this morning [Re: ksp107] #6796215
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As to groney buying fur just ask those Indiana boys how much fur he bought last weekend. He bought so much fur that he filled the truck and had to store the rest. Trappers were lined up all day long.
I was told no coon sold for more then $8.00 and $45.00 was the top price on coyotes.

The results on the Indiana FT sale Is still being worked out. But It didn't sound to good from what I was told.


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Re: Sold to Groeny this morning [Re: The Beav] #6796228
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Originally Posted by The Beav
All castor is not created equal.
A Lb of #1 stuff Is going to bring more money then a Lb of #2 castor.

Beav, most of the major country collectors pay the same for #1 and #2 grades. It's the shells that are often discounted. Some country buyers buy straight run all at one price.

One collection of nice straight run brought over $80/lb at our last association sale this weekend in Prineville, Oregon. So in my opinion one can do better, far better, for nicely put up castor then what Groeny seems to be offering.

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Re: Sold to Groeny this morning [Re: The Beav] #6796244
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Originally Posted by The Beav
As to groney buying fur just ask those Indiana boys how much fur he bought last weekend. He bought so much fur that he filled the truck and had to store the rest. Trappers were lined up all day long.
I was told no coon sold for more then $8.00 and $45.00 was the top price on coyotes.

The results on the Indiana FT sale Is still being worked out. But It didn't sound to good from what I was told.

I saw a pic of the Penske truck they where driving full to the top with dry coon. Not sure who’s crazier all the guys still trapping coon or groenwold a for buying them


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Re: Sold to Groeny this morning [Re: trapperne] #6796248
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Originally Posted by trapperne
Originally Posted by The Beav
As to groney buying fur just ask those Indiana boys how much fur he bought last weekend. He bought so much fur that he filled the truck and had to store the rest. Trappers were lined up all day long.
I was told no coon sold for more then $8.00 and $45.00 was the top price on coyotes.

The results on the Indiana FT sale Is still being worked out. But It didn't sound to good from what I was told.

I saw a pic of the Penske truck they where driving full to the top with dry coon. Not sure who’s crazier all the guys still trapping coon or groenwold a for buying them


GFW did not become the largest fur buyer in the US by not knowing where their market is!

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Re: Sold to Groeny this morning [Re: ksp107] #6796274
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Coat coon have not been too profitable for trappers the last 30 years. Lets see how coat liner coon do? crazy


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Re: Sold to Groeny this morning [Re: ksp107] #6796310
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I hope they dont start using castor for trim or liners.


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Re: Sold to Groeny this morning [Re: ksp107] #6796348
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Originally Posted by red mt
And Dave if holding fur does not work why is there so much speculation holding fur in storage by brokers and fur buyers ???


If wild fur were a necessity, there would be no speculators. Speculators purchase when no one else will. Sometimes they win, sometimes they lose. Kind of like Vegas.

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Originally Posted by Boco
I hope they dont start using castor for trim or liners.


Why is castor price up? Supply is down. I believe there is a pattern to this?


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Re: Sold to Groeny this morning [Re: Dirt] #6796377
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The price of castor is up because DEMAND out passes supply. That’s not the case with most wild fur


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Re: Sold to Groeny this morning [Re: The Beav] #6796380
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Originally Posted by The Beav
As to groney buying fur just ask those Indiana boys how much fur he bought last weekend. He bought so much fur that he filled the truck and had to store the rest. Trappers were lined up all day long.
I was told no coon sold for more then $8.00 .........


That is my point. He is getting all the coon he can handle at bargin pricing. Why pay any more?

Re: Sold to Groeny this morning [Re: ksp107] #6796381
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If I had coon in my fur shed I would be a bit worried with todays market. Same with coon sitting In the auction house. Like Walleye101 said why pay more when you can buy all the coon you want for less then a $5.00 bill.


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Need a demand for garments on the street before the demand trickles down to the trapper.

Re: Sold to Groeny this morning [Re: The Beav] #6796475
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Originally Posted by The Beav
As to groney buying fur just ask those Indiana boys how much fur he bought last weekend. He bought so much fur that he filled the truck and had to store the rest. Trappers were lined up all day long.
I was told no coon sold for more then $8.00 and $45.00 was the top price on coyotes.

The results on the Indiana FT sale Is still being worked out. But It didn't sound to good from what I was told.

That pretty good prices for Indiana coon, it was posted the very most green coon from here were bringing was $6, the most i got from them 2 wks ago was $10, well 1 @$14, that dont count as told me $10 top on finished good coon , I didn't think Indiana coon were that fantastic or a m I thinking Ohio coon

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Originally Posted by Dave Plueger
Originally Posted by red mt
And Dave if holding fur does not work why is there so much speculation holding fur in storage by brokers and fur buyers ???


If wild fur were a necessity, there would be no speculators. Speculators purchase when no one else will. Sometimes they win, sometimes they lose. Kind of like Vegas.


Lol yep agreed


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how many times have you been to vegas have you won or lost the most how many times have you seen a auction at nafa or furharvesters with no coon how many stops have groeny made that has fur that there is no coon are you telling stories again

Re: Sold to Groeny this morning [Re: ksp107] #6796505
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Joe1, not exactly sure what your trying to say?

When coon can be bought, at a price end users are comfortable with, they move. Point was that if we quit producing, or refused to sell until a certain price is achieved, those same coon may not be bought, and an alternative may be utilized instead. Wild fur is expendable.

Re: Sold to Groeny this morning [Re: ksp107] #6796519
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Obviously end users should switch to those cheap alternatives if they require trappers to sell at a loss. Why would I care?


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