Re: truckers, pillars of the country
[Re: danny clifton]
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I just LOVE the jackwads who pull out of their driveways infront of the combo I'm driving, to achieve a maximum speed that is about 15mph under the limit, to go maybe a 1/4 down the road, but THEY just HAD to be infront of the big truck
dont get me going on how we imped traffic on the highways, just remember, the interstates were built with the intentions for moving the military and commercial traffic fast and efficent, not for 4 wheelers
I do not recognize the biden/harris administration as legal
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Re: truckers, pillars of the country
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[/quote] Maybe for most people but not all. We produce around 70% of our food on the farm that increases each year. Maybe 25% of our trash leaves on a truck. One bag twice a month maybe. The rest is burnt.
Some of that 70% of food production dose have inputs brought by a truck like some animal feeds, seed , and starting potting mix. But most we try to source locally and that increases each year. Now plenty of other things probably most of them do come on a truck. Yet nowhere near 100% of everything.
If you can't grow it your self you can find a local farmer that can supply your family's needs. Ther is no need for your steaks to have traveled 2000 miles when you can get a better product 15miles down the road supporting that local farm family and keeping your money in the local economy.
[/quote] I agree with you that you should buy your food from someone close by if you can't grow it yourself.
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Re: truckers, pillars of the country
[Re: danny clifton]
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What about the elderly couple who have never held a CDL much less ever driven a big truck and trailer. No additional requirements to buy and drive that big RV down the road. If a trucker pulled half the stuff that grandma and grandpa do on the road, he (she) would get their licence pulled!
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Re: truckers, pillars of the country
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I just LOVE the jackwads who pull out of their driveways infront of the combo I'm driving, to achieve a maximum speed that is about 15mph under the limit, to go maybe a 1/4 down the road, but THEY just HAD to be infront of the big truck
dont get me going on how we imped traffic on the highways, just remember, the interstates were built with the intentions for moving the military and commercial traffic fast and efficent, not for 4 wheelers Lol I'm not even in an 80k rig but boy do I feel for you. It never fails that little car will pull out in front of me I'm my f 250 pulling the dump trailer loaded. I see them I look in my mirrors yep nothing in sight behind me for 3/4 mile behind me but i 100% know they will pull out in front of me when they don't have enough time. I guess they never driven anything larger than their compact car and think I can stop on a dime. I can't imitation being in a big rig. Some people don't have much self preservation instinct.
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Re: truckers, pillars of the country
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Every driver on the planet should have to drive a big rig successfully for 3 weeks min before they are allowed to have a drivers license.
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Re: truckers, pillars of the country
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https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/breaking-fmcsa-likely-grant-hours-215507465.htmlLast time I was told I could drive as much as I wanted was for flood relief in in S.W. MO. 3-4 years ago. Sure is funny that it is ok to put in long hours for someone else's benefit but any other time you can't be trusted to sleep when you need too. We used to just call log books comic books or funny books. Then computers came along. At first it was just a date/time stamp on fuel receipts rather than hand written receipts you could get any date you wanted put on them. D.O.T. started looking at credit card statements also. Now of course there is a computer spying on drivers 24/7. Truck drivers are the only people I am aware of that must document their time, 100% of the time, working hour, time off hours, days off hours and vacation every second, every minute, every hour, every day, every week, every month, every year that they are still working. except when they are not. Quit if you don't like it.
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Re: truckers, pillars of the country
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Every driver on the planet should have to drive a big rig successfully for 3 weeks min before they are allowed to have a drivers license.
X2 I'm sure that's what you guys did when you turned16. Very practical.
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Re: truckers, pillars of the country
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[quote=Flint Hill fur][quote=Marty B]Every driver on the planet should have to drive a big rig successfully for 3 weeks min before they are allowed to have a drivers license.
I'm sure that's what you guys did when you turned16. Very practical.
You know they didn't. How about just explaining how much time it takes to stop a big rig in driver ed and add the question to the driving test. O that wont work. Maybe not for everyone but boy let me tell you I remember the train conductor that came into my driving class. How far it takes to stop one blew me away. I'm embarrassed to admit but felt really stupid when he also told us they don't have a steering wheel so can't avoid us. I had not even though about that. Gave me much more respect for trains. Way more practical than having to operate a train effectively before getting my driver's license.
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Re: truckers, pillars of the country
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I doubt most of the drivers they are concerned about are new drivers. More likely older drivers with slower reflexes and thought process. The oldest tack in the box isn't the sharpest. But with people complaining about school closures because of not having child care think about how they'll be complaining when they have to drive grandma and grandpa everywhere. Most of my close calls have been with older drivers.
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Re: truckers, pillars of the country
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I doubt most of the drivers they are concerned about are new drivers. More likely older drivers with slower reflexes and thought process. The oldest tack in the box isn't the sharpest. But with people complaining about school closures because of not having child care think about how they'll be complaining when they have to drive grandma and grandpa everywhere. Most of my close calls have been with older drivers.
Very valid points. They probably become complacent if they were ever educated to beginning with. Younger drivers are probably more cautious being everything is new. Older drivers taking thing for granted and being over confident probably adds to it. One thing for sure trucking is a tough job and and they don't get enough credit or respect. Some of those places they can get their rigs into blows my mind how well they can drive.
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Re: truckers, pillars of the country
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https://news.yahoo.com/unprecedented-move-trump-administration-suspended-193633592.htmlHere is another article on suspension to the Hours of Service regs. As usual with yahoo there is a lot of ,misinformation, starting with its the first time on a federal level. It is NOT the first time at a federal level . The last time at a FEDERAL level was Katrina relief. Weight limits were also suspended for that one. Trucks doing hurricane relief had a form in the corner of their windshield and did not even have to enter scales or ports of entry.
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Re: truckers, pillars of the country
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Yes Run, I am certain it won't be for every commodity. Will be a lot of them though.
There were thousands doing Katrina relief. After the hurricane they were pushing drivers to take trailers as full as they could get them, as fast as they could get there, to staging areas on the outskirts of New Orleans. Delivery overtook distribution and there were no warehouses available. So trucks were staged in holding areas and paid by the hour, till their loads could be distributed. Sometimes for several days. Drivers slept then did it again. No flooding to deal with now. So I am not sure what the plan is.
Before CDL's on the back of every paper log I ever saw, were instructions on what to do in a national emergency. There are laws similar to draft laws for the military for truck drivers. I can not help but wonder if every one with a CDL A is going to be told to report someplace if shortages really are expected in freight delivery ability.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: truckers, pillars of the country
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B the scary part isn't the guys that have been jammin gears for years, its the somali lookin refugees driving trucks who got their CDL at some backdoor operation and cant even figure out how to put fuel in at the truckstop. Throw a Little snow on the roads and they can find the ditch pretty fast!
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Re: truckers, pillars of the country
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Every driver on the planet should have to drive a big rig successfully for 3 weeks min before they are allowed to have a drivers license.
that would be good for the truck salvage yards and the mortuaries !
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