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Re: Send 2000 dollars cash to all Americans. Wth [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6809060
03/19/20 09:01 PM
03/19/20 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
For people that make less than 75k/yr.


Of course. Those of us who work hard and make good livings aren't already paying enough to support people in this country.

This whole idea is infuriating.

Re: Send 2000 dollars cash to all Americans. Wth [Re: Blaine County] #6809100
03/19/20 09:15 PM
03/19/20 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
For people that make less than 75k/yr.




This whole idea is infuriating.


Agreed.


-Goofy-
Re: Send 2000 dollars cash to all Americans. Wth [Re: NE Wildlife] #6809131
03/19/20 09:36 PM
03/19/20 09:36 PM
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Irony...when all the folks who voted for Trump because they were against socialism...are now okay with it.


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Re: Send 2000 dollars cash to all Americans. Wth [Re: NE Wildlife] #6809207
03/19/20 10:28 PM
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The proposals I'm hearing are all over the board.I've heard every adult was receiving a check,I've heard its based on your income,I've heard its being directed to those that are now out of work because of the virus.Then today I hear children were worth $500 each,adults in the family $1000 apiece.


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Re: Send 2000 dollars cash to all Americans. Wth [Re: NE Wildlife] #6809218
03/19/20 10:31 PM
03/19/20 10:31 PM
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I think we should stop letting ourselves be herded like cows down rabbit holes dug by the elite rulers of the world. We’re debating a stimulus payment and projecting its value (or harm) to our society. It’s got us analyzing different uses,making estimates as to how much,when,and where from. We are supposedly in a pandemic as far as our media’s hype is concerned. We have shut down public schools,stores,factories,etc. Why do the elite do anything? Simple...money. Right? There’s an incredible amount of strange things going on,seemingly stemming from a virus outbreak that has created a domino effect. Quit letting them run the diversion tactics like we always do and pay attention to the big picture. Fear is an awesome weapon. We live in a very secure and comfortable society as far as the rest of the worlds standards. Shutting down all these businesses and living under a quarantine coupled with the unknown will cause fear. It will also trigger an economic collapse and a bankruptcy of our country. While all this is going on.....where is all the rich mans money being spent?? Purchasing gold. When economic collapse has gone far enough,our government will swoop in and save the day by putting us on a gold standard for our country and the entire world. Now,seeing that we have most of the gold in the world,and all currency in the world is running on a gold standard,we will “make America great again”. Just this time around,there will be an insurmountable gap between the haves and have nots.

Re: Send 2000 dollars cash to all Americans. Wth [Re: NE Wildlife] #6809231
03/19/20 10:39 PM
03/19/20 10:39 PM
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Actually I think shutting down colleges and public schools is GOOD thing !

Have you noticed that gold has been dropping right along with all other asset classes ? Give up the tinfoil hat and the Ron Paul food dehydrators. This is serious.

The best thing we can do for both the economy and the national health is listen to the CDC and cooperate with isolation directives



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Re: Send 2000 dollars cash to all Americans. Wth [Re: NE Wildlife] #6809250
03/19/20 10:51 PM
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Not saying closing schools is a bad move for controlling an easily spread sickness. It just seems like it’s all being layered in carefully,one thing at a time. And gold isn’t falling as fast as the dollar is. If we continue to follow any direction we’re told every time we’re told,it will open doors that aren’t supposed to be able to be opened in our society.

Re: Send 2000 dollars cash to all Americans. Wth [Re: NE Wildlife] #6809273
03/19/20 11:02 PM
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Actually the dollar has been strengthening all the while that gold has been dropping. That is one of the real anomalies of this correction.

Normally.......when the stock market tanks like this, the bond market will appreciate. This time All asset classes have declined. The stock market, the bond market, the gold and silver markets and the oil market have all dropped while the dollar has strengthened.

Something is different this time and it is disconcerting


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Re: Send 2000 dollars cash to all Americans. Wth [Re: white17] #6809293
03/19/20 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by white17
Actually I think shutting down colleges and public schools is GOOD thing !

Have you noticed that gold has been dropping right along with all other asset classes ? Give up the tinfoil hat and the Ron Paul food dehydrators. This is serious.

The best thing we can do for both the economy and the national health is listen to the CDC and cooperate with isolation directives



Might be a good history lesson if you looked at what happened to the price of gold and silver at the beginning of the last recession .


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Send 2000 dollars cash to all Americans. Wth [Re: NE Wildlife] #6809301
03/19/20 11:28 PM
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I haven't looked at that Steven but what I suspect is happening is that people are selling gold to cover margin calls. It says nothing at all about gold. Just that people are raising cash where they can

But the fact that treasuries also dropped is way out of kilter


Mean As Nails
Re: Send 2000 dollars cash to all Americans. Wth [Re: white17] #6809307
03/19/20 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeinpa
If we continue to follow any direction we’re told every time we’re told,it will open doors that aren’t supposed to be able to be opened in our society.

Originally Posted by white17
Something is different this time and it is disconcerting


d'ye reckon? Conspiracy time?

Re: Send 2000 dollars cash to all Americans. Wth [Re: NE Wildlife] #6809309
03/19/20 11:36 PM
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No !


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Re: Send 2000 dollars cash to all Americans. Wth [Re: NE Wildlife] #6809310
03/19/20 11:36 PM
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Notice the Gold drop and I agree margin calls are really coming home to roost. As far as relief Im for no taxes this year and lets see how it goes cant get much worse our debt is nose bleed.

Re: Send 2000 dollars cash to all Americans. Wth [Re: NE Wildlife] #6809313
03/19/20 11:42 PM
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Trump is all over the map on what he has said about this conundrum.
He is not a leader. He is a moron.

Re: Send 2000 dollars cash to all Americans. Wth [Re: NE Wildlife] #6809324
03/19/20 11:55 PM
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I guess I am glad that moron is leading us than a real moron.
If it hadn't been for that moron,some of us may not have been here now.
Tom


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Re: Send 2000 dollars cash to all Americans. Wth [Re: NE Wildlife] #6809326
03/19/20 11:57 PM
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You can destroy the check. Would like to see how many "patriots" refuse payment.

Re: Send 2000 dollars cash to all Americans. Wth [Re: danvee] #6809349
03/20/20 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by danvee
Notice the Gold drop and I agree margin calls are really coming home to roost. As far as relief Im for no taxes this year and lets see how it goes cant get much worse our debt is nose bleed.



Agree 110 %


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Re: Send 2000 dollars cash to all Americans. Wth [Re: white17] #6809395
03/20/20 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by white17
Actually the dollar has been strengthening all the while that gold has been dropping. That is one of the real anomalies of this correction.

Normally.......when the stock market tanks like this, the bond market will appreciate. This time All asset classes have declined. The stock market, the bond market, the gold and silver markets and the oil market have all dropped while the dollar has strengthened.

Something is different this time and it is disconcerting

have you noticed the spread over spot price to physical has widened?? if you can find it.


The only place you find free cheese is in a mousetrap !
Re: Send 2000 dollars cash to all Americans. Wth [Re: AKAjust] #6809418
03/20/20 03:38 AM
03/20/20 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by AKAjust
So where are they gonna get the money from? If they have that much to give away why don't they just lower our taxes? And how much is it going to cost us to ay it back?

just


Around 2000??

Re: Send 2000 dollars cash to all Americans. Wth [Re: Blaine County] #6809420
03/20/20 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
For people that make less than 75k/yr.


Of course. Those of us who work hard and make good livings aren't already paying enough to support people in this country.

This whole idea is infuriating.


Not that i feel im owed money for being alive during a disease, but ive seen a lot of people (senior coworkers who dont do anything and others) who make more than 75k and dont deserve it. Also, i see a lot of people outperform those making more than 75k make far less. So i guess what im saying is dont imply that everyone makin more is working hard and those who do not, arent working hard.

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