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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: backroadsarcher] #6814754
03/23/20 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by backroadsarcher
Can finally look at mine. Looks like the grading is a little different this year.?.?


Yes, I agree.

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: Squash] #6814838
03/23/20 07:30 PM
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Anybody know the order of sale?

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: Squash] #6814841
03/23/20 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Squash
Originally Posted by backroadsarcher
Can finally look at mine. Looks like the grading is a little different this year.?.?


Yes, I agree.


How so?

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: teepee2] #6814883
03/23/20 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by teepee2
Anybody know the order of sale?


Most likely catalog order. I believe beaver is first thing up.

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: walleye101] #6814887
03/23/20 07:58 PM
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Got into mine at around 5 PM. First time reading FHA grades and sizing so will wait until they sell to see the differences in sizes and grades. My 3x-2x and xl sizes were about as they normally are percentage wise. I felt I had more smaller rats this year, but there were more XL rats so yes a few less 3x-2x but about 35% of the total.

Bryce

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6814889
03/23/20 08:00 PM
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Wissmiss,
Are you a registered buyer and able to view the sale?

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: walleye101] #6814917
03/23/20 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by walleye101
Wissmiss,
Are you a registered buyer and able to view the sale?


Yes. However, I am not able to share information with any one. The bidding is confidential and not to be shared. Not worth losing my buyer account at FHA. Sorry.

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: wissmiss] #6814948
03/23/20 08:50 PM
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Guess I'm guilty about switching this from top lot coon to coyotes, but it's better than politics and corona virus. Lol . Hope they have good clearances.

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6814952
03/23/20 08:51 PM
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The bidding is confidential...? Is this something with this expedient virtual sale or something that FHA does on a regular basis?? How then does a seller even know there's bidding going and its not FHA's version of NAFA's "private treaty" sales...?


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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: wissmiss] #6815019
03/23/20 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
Originally Posted by walleye101
Wissmiss,
Are you a registered buyer and able to view the sale?


Yes. However, I am not able to share information with any one. The bidding is confidential and not to be shared. Not worth losing my buyer account at FHA. Sorry.


Thanks, I figured you were. and didn't expect you to be sharing of bidding during the sale.
But I am curious as a new shipper what to expect for updates. Does FHA update trapper account pages during the sale, or as each species catalog is completed, or does that all come after the sale is complete?

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6815077
03/23/20 10:46 PM
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As far as I know, this is the first online auction they have had. Not many other choices with the flu shutting everything down. Manufactures needed products, I am told, and want some way of buying. That is the best they can do, so lets hope things sell well. I doubt you will find out much on prices till after the sale, because it will be in a format more like ebay, where it can be bid on up till a certain date and time. Please be patient, as there is a lot riding on this sale, and with the success of other internet sales, this could be our best shot with the cards that have been delt this season with this kung flu. Good luck everyone!


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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6815112
03/23/20 11:37 PM
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When is sale. It was postpone I understood.

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: coonman220] #6815114
03/23/20 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by coonman220
When is sale. It was postpone I understood.

Nobody knows. That's the thing. It's like surprise sale. Nobody knows it's happening until it already happened and nobody knows what the bids are until after the sale. It could be this week it could be next month

Last edited by Poorcoon; 03/23/20 11:42 PM.

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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6815138
03/24/20 01:14 AM
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The remote auction at FHA starts tomorrow (Tuesday) morning at 8 AM eastern time. It ends April 2 at 5 PM eastern time.

Any one that is a registered buyer can check the bidding at any time. It is going to work sort of like an auction on eBay. The bidding will start at the FHA valuation. If a buyer wants to bid, he logs into his account and enters a bid. The auction catalog is updated with the new bid and shows a code number for the high bidder. If there aren’t any bids, then the valuation will show with no buyer code listed.

Bidding at the auction will be in established increments. Which depends on species and amounts. Here is an example.

Muskrats - if the bid is under $10.00, the bid increment is 10 cents. Once the price is over $10.00, the bid increment is 25 cents.

Valuation on #1 small muskrats is $1.00. The next bid is $1.10. The next bid is $1.20. Then $1.30. Just like in the auction room.

There won’t be much for shippers to see until the auction is over and accounts are updated when the auction is over.

Remember, this is the first time FHA has had a remote auction. There is always there is a chance there will be glitches, but I hope not.

I would be happy to answer any question about how the auction is going to work but will not discuss values, bids or anything similar.

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6815143
03/24/20 02:04 AM
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Will be interesting to see how this sale goes. Curious how confident buyers will be about buying goods without seeing them. I've heard lots of times that the grades and catalog doesn't necessarily represent what the fur really is. So I can only figure that confidence will be low. I wouldn't think they would be holding the sale unless they think the can move some goods though.
Mike

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6815146
03/24/20 02:12 AM
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AkMike makes a very good point about buyer confidence in the grade. There was a point in time, many years ago, where you could buy goods at FHA sight unseen based on the catalog description. In more recent years, that has not always been the case.

When it comes to the more expensive goods, such as wolves, wolverine, better lynxcats, there is good reason to be cautious. However, on goods such as Section III goods or goods like beaver. Muskrat, Raccoon, where the market is so poor, a buyer can almost afford to gamble on submitting a bid without seeing the goods.

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6815154
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One other note, FHA is not accepting any bids below valuation during their remote auction.

If the value is $20.00 and a buyer bids $18.00, the bid will automatically be rejected.

This is different from a live auction. In the auction room, the auction stand may or may not accept a bid below valuation. Depending on the item and grade.

That should be a comfort to you that think this might be a fire sale.

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: wissmiss] #6815215
03/24/20 06:38 AM
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Thank you Wissmiss and Lee Steinmeyer once again. You are both constant sources of info. based on logic and reason and first hand sourcing. You spare us the shooting from the hip that is all too common on this forum and a waste of cyberspace and all of our time. Please continue.

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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6815287
03/24/20 08:14 AM
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Hey wissmiss, are you able to share with us if there is actual bidding going on for certain species? No values, but just knowing that there is some demand and bidding happening would be reassuring.

Thanks,
Houts

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6815294
03/24/20 08:21 AM
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Best of luck to all with fur on this sale. Really hoping this goes good.


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