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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6815317
03/24/20 08:54 AM
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Fingers crossed for the sale. Hopefully it goes well.
Iím a little nervous about my big bear, hard to get any price on taxidermy items without actually putting your hands on them to check them out.
Might be the best thing since sliced bread! Hopefully

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6815326
03/24/20 09:14 AM
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So as a shipper do any of you know what your valuations are?
Do you even know what lots your fur Is In?

Good luck

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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6815327
03/24/20 09:16 AM
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Beav yes our the lots are posted and viewable on our account info the valuations..no

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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6815331
03/24/20 09:22 AM
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Thanks crosspatch. Nancy has been involved in the buying end for many years, and knows the auction protocol very well. She is a book of knowledge, and we can all thank her for sharing with us. I've been a trapper all my life, bought fur for a few years back in the boom years, and have been an agent for 22 years. Both of us can add a little different perspective to the discussion.

One thing that bothers me on this forum is the amount of people that spout the doom and gloom. The negetive comments, spouted off like a prophet, just become a cancer that effects the whole fur industry. We all know times are tough for fur, so try to have a better outlook on it! thanks, Lee


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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6815335
03/24/20 09:25 AM
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I'm a realist. I think FHA is a motivated seller. Time will tell. Sorry for the doom and gloom.


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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6815337
03/24/20 09:29 AM
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Gary, no valuations to the trapper. Only buyers see valuations. What good does it do to see them, doesn't change what you can do, and the fur brings what is bid, with or with out valuations.

The lot numbers are listed on each fur or furs on yoour readout. You can go to the catalogs to find where your fur is and in what section or string.


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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6815342
03/24/20 09:36 AM
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The valuations tell me where FHA thinks the market is. It tells me if FHA is a viable option. Why keep it from sellers?


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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6815346
03/24/20 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by lee steinmeyer


One thing that bothers me on this forum is the amount of people that spout the doom and gloom. The negetive comments, spouted off like a prophet, just become a cancer that effects the whole fur industry. We all know times are tough for fur, so try to have a better outlook on it! thanks, Lee


Very true!!!

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6815394
03/24/20 10:11 AM
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Dirt, that still won't do you any good. You will find out what it brought after, and if you have sent fur, there is no getting it back or changing anything. If that give you peace of mind, you to attatched to a computer!

It is just more busy work that needs to get done with no worth.


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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: Dirt] #6815397
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Originally Posted by Dirt
The valuations tell me where FHA thinks the market is. It tells me if FHA is a viable option. Why keep it from sellers?

Because they'd have a million calls with guys complaining that their raccoons are worth more etc. Or God forbid something sold for a dollar less than the valuation than omg fire sale. It would be nothing but a headache for them.

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6815404
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It would have value to me. I won't explain. Thanks to lee and wissmiss for info.


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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6815423
03/24/20 10:42 AM
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As far as reporting auction action, Iím thinking there wonít be much to report. Remember the auction lasts for 9 days. Until April 2. Bids will trickle in over that period of time. Watching this auction will be like watching paint dry.

It will be the exact opposite of a live auction, where lots sell at a rapid pace.

Right now I am trying to log in to the auction. Having problems finding the bidding site. DONíT panic. Lots of time to figure it out.

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6815444
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Nancy If I give you my lot numbers could you please bid them up for me?

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: Horse Creek Fur] #6815513
03/24/20 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Horse Creek Fur
Originally Posted by Dirt
It would have value to me. I won't explain. Thanks to lee and wissmiss for info.

It lets you know the flow. Are they holding to their numbers? Doing better than they had assessed? Why is more transparency bad. I donít hold any ill will, I just agree with Dirt and disagree with Lee. I see why Lee thinks the way he does. I hope he can see my point. NAFA did a lot of things we didnít know about. Iím not in the ďthe less you know, the betterĒ camp.


I agree with both of these posts.

I have fur that will hopefully go on the next sale so yes I would like to see a valuation.


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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6815591
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Folks that have used FHA in the past, were you able to see valuations prior to the sales?

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: walleye101] #6815601
03/24/20 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by walleye101
Folks that have used FHA in the past, were you able to see valuations prior to the sales?


Nope

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: kingrat] #6815605
03/24/20 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by kingrat
Nancy If I give you my lot numbers could you please bid them up for me?


Unfortunately no. Sorry.

If I do it for you, then everyone would ask and it would be overwhelming for me.

In my opinion, the reason FHA doesnít post valuations on shippers accounts is that in a down market like this, valuations upset shippers. And upset shippers tend to call and complain. This creates more work and time spent for the FHA staff. Yes, shippers are important but at this stage of the game it is more important to answer buyers questions so that they feel confident bidding.

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6815611
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I'm sorry guys, it don't make any sense. You will have the results of the sale on your account, long before you have to send your fur for the next sale, the LRD was the 19 of April, and it was pushed back at least two weeks. Don't need valuations to make a decision about sending fur.


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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6815673
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Showing valuations would do a ton of good, it would hold Fha accountable and a lot less easy to dump something. It make the buyers know you better come to bid and be reasonable and close to the valuations. It would probably reduce the yo-yo in prices we have seen for so long. We better not hear in a couple months how groeny came in and cleaned up what was left at the auction for less then what was being paid in the country

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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: crosspatch] #6815702
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Originally Posted by crosspatch
Thank you Wissmiss and Lee Steinmeyer once again. You are both constant sources of info. based on logic and reason and first hand sourcing. You spare us the shooting from the hip that is all too common on this forum and a waste of cyberspace and all of our time. Please continue.



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