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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: Northof50] #6817262
03/25/20 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Northof50
Originally Posted by kingrat
I know one thing, its gonna be a long 9 days. Coulda made it a 3 day sale at least. Wonder why 9 days?


They took into consideration that they thought that Saskatchewan was still all dial-up internet, so it would take 9 days for you to download info.


And here I thought it was because they knew it would take that long to sell all the crappy fur from east of Saskatchewan. Lol.

Last edited by kingrat; 03/25/20 06:31 PM.
Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6817280
03/25/20 06:49 PM
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Sure glad I sold it the country a month ago and am now enjoying the money that my fur brought!

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: cat daddy] #6817328
03/25/20 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by cat daddy
Sure glad I sold it the country a month ago and am now enjoying the money that my fur brought!


Thanks for your two posts (you posted the same on page 1 last Saturday) on the subject that are exactly the same......informative contribution to the subject!!

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6817365
03/25/20 07:58 PM
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Intermission. I have to get more popcorn.

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: wissmiss] #6817520
03/25/20 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
FHA would like to sell everything. But they know that isn’t going to happen. I’m willing to bet that not even half the goods get sold. That is just my opinion.

x2 on that


40 + years of trapping & some fur buying and i still know nothing.
Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6817550
03/25/20 10:23 PM
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This could be the second time, in my 13 years of sending to the auction houses. That I would have done better selling in the country, Maybe?


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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6817981
03/26/20 11:56 AM
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I think anyone that sent fur to this auction should'nt judge FHA on the success of this sale. The world is in upheaval, equity markets are shot (at least for now) retail fur sales in all of Asia fell flat on their face this winter, Asia was CG's hope for market expansion this year. And, last but not least, how can you buy fur without looking at it yourself or at least through a broker you have trust in? I wish them great luck as we don't need another North American wild fur auction to fold.

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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6818710
03/26/20 10:20 PM
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pray and Hope for the best is all we can do


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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: wy.wolfer] #6818875
03/27/20 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by wy.wolfer
I think anyone that sent fur to this auction should'nt judge FHA on the success of this sale. The world is in upheaval, equity markets are shot (at least for now) retail fur sales in all of Asia fell flat on their face this winter, Asia was CG's hope for market expansion this year. And, last but not least, how can you buy fur without looking at it yourself or at least through a broker you have trust in? I wish them great luck as we don't need another North American wild fur auction to fold.


X2

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6818950
03/27/20 08:33 AM
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LLtrapper posted "What I have been told is that it is a sale not an auction. If you were to call and offer the full price, it is yours. Greg told me there were two types of buyers on this sale. The ones who wanted fur and the Chinese and GFW. Don't kill the messenger. That is what he said. He also said the latter were getting the dial tone....No fire sale in other words. LLL"

How many people have fur marked as sold that was shipped up this year? I saw where some posted they did.


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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6818980
03/27/20 09:02 AM
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Mark, the fur marked as sold, is fur they sold PT before the current sale. Nothing will be posted till after the second of April.

For you guys that were aurguing about valuations. I spoke with Les Barnes, the old nafa agent here in Ks the other day. I mentioned that nafa must have really spoiled everyone. He ask, how so. I told him about the thread here. He said you are all blowing smoke, that nafa had quit that at least eight years ago, because it caused too much extra work and did nothing but cause controversy! So there you have it, it ain't gonna happen!


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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6819004
03/27/20 09:23 AM
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Well hes full of agit because it was posted the last few sales you just needed to know where to look. So ya someone is blowing smoke alright.

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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: kingrat] #6819008
03/27/20 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by kingrat
Well hes full of agit because it was posted the last few sales you just needed to know where to look


Is that the guy that helped bankrupt some company in Canada?


Who is John Galt?
Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6819072
03/27/20 10:33 AM
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Lee, So it was sold before the auction, even though it was shipped to be put on this auction? I can see left over good being sold pt, but not stuff that has never hit the floor. So do we have a bidding auction, like ebay or a sale going on? LLtrapper says Greg said its a sale, not a auction.


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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6819089
03/27/20 10:55 AM
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Here are NAFA valuations from Jan-2019 We all know how this turned out.
ACCOUNT_ID VARIETY VARIETY_FR SEX LOT BREEDER GRADE GRADE_SORT
92554 RACCOON RATON LAVEUR N 434034 N SEL 15 XXL 20 12
92554 RACCOON RATON LAVEUR N 434046 N SEL 15 XXL 20 10
92554 RACCOON RATON LAVEUR N 434058 N SEL 15 XXL 20 8
92554 RACCOON RATON LAVEUR N 434133 N I-II 30 XXL 20 7
92554 RACCOON RATON LAVEUR N 434188 N I-II 30 XL 25 5
92554 RACCOON RATON LAVEUR N 434661 N SEL 15 4XL 10 19
92554 RACCOON RATON LAVEUR N 434670 N SEL 15 3XL 15 10
92554 RACCOON RATON LAVEUR N 434675 N SDA 28 4XL 3XL 10 12
92554 RACCOON RATON LAVEUR N 434685 N I-II 30 4XL-3XL 10 9.5
92554 LYNX CAT LYNX ROUX N 435153 N I 20 LGE 30 100 1

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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6819279
03/27/20 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by lee steinmeyer
Mark, the fur marked as sold, is fur they sold PT before the current sale. Nothing will be posted till after the second of April.

For you guys that were aurguing about valuations. I spoke with Les Barnes, the old nafa agent here in Ks the other day. I mentioned that nafa must have really spoiled everyone. He ask, how so. I told him about the thread here. He said you are all blowing smoke, that nafa had quit that at least eight years ago, because it caused too much extra work and did nothing but cause controversy! So there you have it, it ain't gonna happen!


That info from les is wrong, nafa put valuations on the shippers fur. You had to know where to look.

Hard to believe the amount of people that are ok with being treated like a mushroom by fha.
Your probably right about not gonna happen though.


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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6819386
03/27/20 06:45 PM
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I tried to post on this right after kingrats response, then lost it. I got better things to do than argue about it, and I will let Les know and thank him for the eroneous info. Still don't change things, Fur Harvesters ain't gonna do it just because a few guys seem to think it's so important. I've told you my opinion, you have told me yours, I'm done with it!


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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6819468
03/27/20 07:40 PM
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Ok fair enough.

I am also done here after I post one more thought.
To the folks reading this, when is the last time you sold something and had no idea what the asking price or the approximate valuation was on the item that you were trying to sell???

I trust fha to a certain point, but I prefer the trust but verifie route.
As in I trust fha but i would very much like some verification on valuation in print to make sure they really do have my best interest in mind.
After all dosen't Fha say they are owned by trappers and run by trappers??? Shouldn't they be able to do better at keeping the trapper and the owner of the fur in the loop a little better?? Or no??
Good luck trappers!!


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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6819630
03/27/20 09:11 PM
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Will the shipper ever actually know what his or her fur was valued at before the sale?


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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6819639
03/27/20 09:15 PM
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In my opinion it was foolish to let anyone know valuations on a live auction. The only one that needs to know is the auctioneer, to drop the hammer or not.

This internet sale I see the need to post it so buyers know what is the starting bid, and they will not accept any less.

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