Re: Corona mess over hyped
[Re: hippie]
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03/22/20 02:41 PM
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There is a huge difference in the mortality rate of those hospitalized versus those that contract a disease.
See below a brief summary of flu related deaths and hospitalizations in the US since 2010.
The burden of influenza disease in the United States can vary widely and is determined by a number of factors including the characteristics of circulating viruses, the timing of the season, how well the vaccine is working to protect against illness, and how many people got vaccinated. While the impact of flu varies, it places a substantial burden on the health of people in the United States each year.
CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010.
Just using averages one gets about 27 million cases per year and about 480K of those are hospitalized and roughly 35,000 per year die. That is 35K divided by 27 million or .0013 or less then two per 1,000 that contract the disease which is far lower then the current data on COVID 19 but that could very well be do to the huge number of undocumented cases that may exist. We best hope that in reality that we are way, way, way under testing as if the percentage holds and we infect what may be projected we will deal with many hospitalizations and much higher death rates then we are dealing with in normal years.
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Re: Corona mess over hyped
[Re: hippie]
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03/22/20 02:55 PM
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Here's the conclusion I came to.
It's more contagious than regular flu.
It's less lethal than regular flu, based on only .08 percent of deaths, the people didn't have any pre-existing illnesses. Over 70 percent had two or more pre-existing illnesses and the average age of those dying is around 80yrs old.
It's been in China since November, and its more widespread than us commoners know. All doctors say there are hundreds of thousands who have it with no symptoms.
This is like the one cop shooting the media grabs hold of and doesn't let go, when there are hundreds of cop shootings that we never hear of.
And lastly, yes I do worry that my very elderly mother may get it, same as I do her catching the flu.
How do you know it had been in China sense November ? I see it was not identified until January 7th and they did not have the first death until January 11th. I'n not saying it is not true just wondering where you heard that and how did they know.
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Re: Corona mess over hyped
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If you truly believe this is all hype then by all means socialize with everyone, go visit a patient with the virus in the hospital, then go back and sneeze and cough all over your family. We’ll await your results. It shouldn’t be a big deal to most on here. Can’t get anything from hype... I didn't say it's all hype, I'm asking why these dead people are getting the attention the hundreds of thousands of flu victims don't?
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Re: Corona mess over hyped
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03/22/20 03:07 PM
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All the grade 4 dropouts on here know more about infectious diseases than the CDC.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Corona mess over hyped
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03/22/20 03:15 PM
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I guess what health proffesional's are reporting is not valid data. Probably just as valid as reporting by media and politicians trying to further their agenda.
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Re: Corona mess over hyped
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03/22/20 03:17 PM
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Hippie, here is my full take on it and it's only opinion, it's a new virus that is highly contagious. With a new virus there is a fear of the unknown, shut it down and look like an idiot, let it run its course look like an idiot. We won't know for sure until all the data comes and it will most likely take a year or two after it's run it's course.
One thing I'm beginning to believe is the cure will have a good chance to be worse than the disease. Bette than 50 50 chance in my eyes the whole economic system will be transformed after this and not in a positive way for the common man.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: Corona mess over hyped
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03/22/20 03:29 PM
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Over 7,000 people on average die every single day in the United States
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Re: Corona mess over hyped
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03/22/20 03:31 PM
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The difference between this corona virus is that it is a novel virus-brand new,The other flu viruses have been circulating for decades and the population has developed a level of immunity that creates managable rates of infection and spread.Not so with this one.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Corona mess over hyped
[Re: Poorcoon]
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03/22/20 03:35 PM
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Over 7,000 people on average die every single day in the United States I don't wanna die yet.
No Jab.
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Re: Corona mess over hyped
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03/22/20 03:37 PM
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Over 7,000 people on average die every single day in the United States Just chew on that for a minute.
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