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Sub MOA AR Pistol #6813559
03/22/20 09:31 PM
03/22/20 09:31 PM
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Amite county Mississippi
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Really happy to say after close to 8 months with of tweaking and reloading got my first sub MOA Group today out of my 6.5 Grendel pistol! Besides the flyer I got a clover leaf measuring 0.38" @100yd.
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My veocites are on the slow side but their stable and fairly consistent. I think I'll be able to get better groups once I change the trigger out and get some more practice, little fella bucks like a irritated colt and it takes a few shots to get back in the swing of working it just right. Lol

Re: Sub MOA AR Pistol [Re: Wolfdog91] #6813570
03/22/20 09:41 PM
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What length barrel? It has been over a year since I was going to assemble one so may be wrong but though you could get 2400fps from a 12". But saying it now seeme wrong I'm to lazy to look it up now. But I do get 2100fps from an 8" blackout with 110gr vmax so maybe I am right?

Re: Sub MOA AR Pistol [Re: Wolfdog91] #6813572
03/22/20 09:42 PM
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That will do nicely Wolfdog What bullet and weight are you using ??

Last edited by Scuba1; 03/22/20 09:43 PM.

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Re: Sub MOA AR Pistol [Re: Wolfdog91] #6813616
03/22/20 10:18 PM
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Re: Sub MOA AR Pistol [Re: Wolfdog91] #6813620
03/22/20 10:26 PM
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now you just need a bullet that expands well down to 1600fps and you show be slaying those pigs

v-max bullets expand too well from my 300blk pistol pushed about 2150fps , get maybe 6 inches of penetration.

fine for a very well placed shot but never a blood trail.


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Re: Sub MOA AR Pistol [Re: Wolfdog91] #6813622
03/22/20 10:28 PM
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That looks like a super handy rig. Shoots good too!

Re: Sub MOA AR Pistol [Re: Wolfdog91] #6813637
03/22/20 10:47 PM
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Re: Sub MOA AR Pistol [Re: Wolfdog91] #6813747
03/23/20 01:15 AM
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It wants to shoot Wolfdog, you might look for any additional accuracy in your loading technic. Uniformity in brass, powder charge, seating depth, case capacity, bullet choice etc. Looking at #7 tells me the variance in velocity may be your loading habits. Usually uniformity in ammo makes bugholes if the firearm is capable. How many rounds have been through that rig?


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Re: Sub MOA AR Pistol [Re: Wolfdog91] #6813825
03/23/20 07:13 AM
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That is a sweet looking rig you got, I would be happy with the result.


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Re: Sub MOA AR Pistol [Re: Wolfdog91] #6813851
03/23/20 07:50 AM
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Re: Sub MOA AR Pistol [Re: Wolfdog91] #6814017
03/23/20 10:17 AM
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I want to try some lighter bullets next but mine does ok with the 120gr Hornady SST and the Nosler BT in the same weight


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Re: Sub MOA AR Pistol [Re: Scuba1] #6815085
03/23/20 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
That will do nicely Wolfdog What bullet and weight are you using ??

Sorry for the late response lol, but it's a 123 grain Hornady ELD M with 27.4 grains of Varget pushing it along

Re: Sub MOA AR Pistol [Re: Rally] #6815094
03/23/20 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Rally
It wants to shoot Wolfdog, you might look for any additional accuracy in your loading technic. Uniformity in brass, powder charge, seating depth, case capacity, bullet choice etc. Looking at #7 tells me the variance in velocity may be your loading habits. Usually uniformity in ammo makes bugholes if the firearm is capable. How many rounds have been through that rig?
yeah I've noticed the grendel is much less forgiving than my other calibers so with this batch I used all FC brass , lubed with a pad deprimed and resized ,tumbled ,trimmed deburred chamfered tumbled again . Primed and double checked for flushness threw about a 26.8-27.1 charge and tricked the rest and tried to seat everything on a CBTO of 1.658. Was originally doing it on 1.667 but had to back off because this gum apparent prefer to jump the rounds a little into the lands . For my humble little set up I think I getting pretty good consistency. I will say though the gun cam probably shoot better but trying to get that little sucker positioned right and not pull shots is a bit more difficult for me compared to my larger rifles

Re: Sub MOA AR Pistol [Re: Providence Farm] #6815097
03/23/20 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
What length barrel? It has been over a year since I was going to assemble one so may be wrong but though you could get 2400fps from a 12". But saying it now seeme wrong I'm to lazy to look it up now. But I do get 2100fps from an 8" blackout with 110gr vmax so maybe I am right?

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Re: Sub MOA AR Pistol [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #6815099
03/23/20 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
now you just need a bullet that expands well down to 1600fps and you show be slaying those pigs

v-max bullets expand too well from my 300blk pistol pushed about 2150fps , get maybe 6 inches of penetration.

fine for a very well placed shot but never a blood trail.

Yeah I was looking into some if the Lehigh bullets but bit too pricy lol.

Re: Sub MOA AR Pistol [Re: Wolfdog91] #6815105
03/23/20 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
now you just need a bullet that expands well down to 1600fps and you show be slaying those pigs

v-max bullets expand too well from my 300blk pistol pushed about 2150fps , get maybe 6 inches of penetration.

fine for a very well placed shot but never a blood trail.

Yeah I was looking into some if the Lehigh bullets but bit too pricy lol.

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