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Re: Just too many people on earth [Re: 20scout] #6813164
03/22/20 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 20scout
WW2 resulted in something like 8 million world wide.


You're a bit off on the numbers, sir.

The Soviet Union ALONE lost more soldiers and civilians than 8 million.

United States lost between 400,000 and 600,000 in World War II.

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Re: Just too many people on earth [Re: walleyed] #6813189
03/22/20 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by walleyed
Originally Posted by 20scout
WW2 resulted in something like 8 million world wide.


You're a bit off on the numbers, sir.

The Soviet Union ALONE lost more soldiers and civilians than 8 million.

United States lost between 400,000 and 600,000 in World War II.

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Yes, I realize that, it was the number that came to mind when I made the post. I know now I was way off but the point is still the same.


Common sense is a not a vegetable that does well in everyone's garden.
Re: Just too many people on earth [Re: 20scout] #6813231
03/22/20 05:58 PM
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Yup,

Point taken.

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Re: Just too many people on earth [Re: Hutchy] #6813260
03/22/20 06:19 PM
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There is still so much vacant land out there.


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Re: Just too many people on earth [Re: Hutchy] #6813321
03/22/20 06:51 PM
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Until there’s not. Think our grandkids will have as many hunting/trapping opportunities as we do now? Or less?

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Re: Just too many people on earth [Re: Hutchy] #6813399
03/22/20 07:37 PM
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The white population (which was more than 90% in 1969) has actually been below replacement rate in this country since then. Our increasing population comes solely from immigration, which is why this country has changed so much. Unfortunately, the baby boomer generation were responsible for the "cultural revolution" which has led us to this point and screwed thier children and grandchilren out of having the same opportunity and abundance that their parents/grandparent had in the 50's and 60's.

Re: Just too many people on earth [Re: M.S. Pickins] #6813438
03/22/20 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by M.S. Pickins
The white population (which was more than 90% in 1969) has actually been below replacement rate in this country since then. Our increasing population comes solely from immigration, which is why this country has changed so much. Unfortunately, the baby boomer generation were responsible for the "cultural revolution" which has led us to this point and screwed thier children and grandchilren out of having the same opportunity and abundance that their parents/grandparent had in the 50's and 60's.


1. Where did you get your 90% statistic?

2. Besides middle-class white males, who had great opportunities and abundance in the 50's and 60's?

3. If no "cultural revolution" but everything else stayed the same, what would 2020 look like?

Re: Just too many people on earth [Re: tomahawker] #6813477
03/22/20 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by tomahawker
Until there’s not. Think our grandkids will have as many hunting/trapping opportunities as we do now? Or less?

Nope! One of the best duck/muskrat sloughs in the area is now a housing development. Every day we lose more land to development, just look at the rain forest.


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Re: Just too many people on earth [Re: Hutchy] #6813491
03/22/20 08:44 PM
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Its the opposite here-less people now than 30 years ago.Land everywhere with no people.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Just too many people on earth [Re: MNCedar] #6813532
03/22/20 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MNCedar
Originally Posted by M.S. Pickins
The white population (which was more than 90% in 1969) has actually been below replacement rate in this country since then. Our increasing population comes solely from immigration, which is why this country has changed so much. Unfortunately, the baby boomer generation were responsible for the "cultural revolution" which has led us to this point and screwed thier children and grandchilren out of having the same opportunity and abundance that their parents/grandparent had in the 50's and 60's.


1. Where did you get your 90% statistic?

2. Besides middle-class white males, who had great opportunities and abundance in the 50's and 60's?

3. If no "cultural revolution" but everything else stayed the same, what would 2020 look like?

1) Excuse me, between 1960 and 1970 the percentage was between 86% and 87%. That's according to the U.S. census.
2) Everyone.
3) We would have kept our industry, less working dead end service industry jobs, fewer STD's and probably NO AIDS, no mass immigration from 3rd world countries, less poverty, less single parent households (both white and black), less homelessness, less governmental overreach, more family farms, the "cultural revolution affected every aspect of society. If the cultural revolution had not happened nothing else would have stayed the same my friend.

Re: Just too many people on earth [Re: Hutchy] #6813564
03/22/20 09:38 PM
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You completely lost me at 2....for no other reasons than voting rights and redlining. I gave up on you at 3 with the mention of "fewer STD's and probably NO AIDS."

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Re: Just too many people on earth [Re: Hutchy] #6813689
03/22/20 11:27 PM
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Even though it may be bad for the species, growing populations are necessary to make government Ponzi schemes function. It is a catch 22.


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Re: Just too many people on earth [Re: Hutchy] #6814030
03/23/20 10:35 AM
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I can see it all now . People living in caves, no meds , no medical services , not much of anything. What will the poor snowflakes do? We will all be cavemen fighting to survive another day.

Re: Just too many people on earth [Re: Boco] #6814082
03/23/20 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Its the opposite here-less people now than 30 years ago.Land everywhere with no people.

What's the reason for that? Nobody wants to live there?

Re: Just too many people on earth [Re: Hutchy] #6814088
03/23/20 11:21 AM
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Decline in logging.Paper mills shut down.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Just too many people on earth [Re: Boco] #6814091
03/23/20 11:23 AM
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Right, nobody wants to live there.

Re: Just too many people on earth [Re: Hutchy] #6814092
03/23/20 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Hutchy
Originally Posted by bodycount
In a way too many humans are the same as too many coons in a given area. Distemper wipes the coons out. Crime, starvation, viruses, and wars eliminate some of the excess humans. It is cruel but a fact of life.



Life would be better if Trappers ran the world. Lol.

All I am saying is, maybe your post is obvious to us, but why isn't it obvious to more people?

We as humans think we are so smart, yet here we are ignoring the real cause of most of our issues.

At the risk of sounding like a commie (I am not) I think the issue lies with the fact that for capitalism to work a country needs to maintain some level of growth.

LOL


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Re: Just too many people on earth [Re: teepee2] #6814127
03/23/20 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by teepee2
Right, nobody wants to live there.


Hard to believe people can't thrive there on all that Top Lot northern fur. frown


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Re: Just too many people on earth [Re: Hutchy] #6814132
03/23/20 11:48 AM
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Not with todays market-no shortage of the top lot northern fur though.
Its not that people dont want to live here,but you gotta be the outdoors type to love it here.Soft people dont do well here,its a tougher type of life here and a lot dont have that anymore.
I like the freedom though.I would never live anywhere else.
My Daughter left for the city-My son stayed and works at the mine.

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Re: Just too many people on earth [Re: Hutchy] #6814141
03/23/20 11:52 AM
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would you wanna live next to Boco???? wink









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