Re: Positive but NO symptoms?
[Re: LLtrapper]
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03/23/20 09:04 AM
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No one wants to answer my question. Why? here it for you one more time.
IF you tested positive would you self isolate or would you go on about your business knowing you may infect others? Yes or no please. That will be all I need to let me and others know what kind of human being you are. LLL Absolutely not and for anyone to go about their daily routine and not quarantine would be totally irresponsible.
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Re: Positive but NO symptoms?
[Re: danny clifton]
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asphalt trapper I havent heard anything yet that makes me think this virus was worth adding a TRILLION dollars to the debt and shutting down the most vibrant economy the U.S. has ever seen.
In my mind we are being lied too. Either its a hundred times worse than that English dr just described or we are being manipulated for some other reason. That small number of people who are most likely to need hospitalization, according to what we are being told, are the ones who need to self quarantine. What would the benefit be for the entire world to lie to us and what are they lying to us about?
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Re: Positive but NO symptoms?
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03/23/20 09:19 AM
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asphalt trapper I havent heard anything yet that makes me think this virus was worth adding a TRILLION dollars to the debt and shutting down the most vibrant economy the U.S. has ever seen.
In my mind we are being lied too. Either its a hundred times worse than that English dr just described or we are being manipulated for some other reason. That small number of people who are most likely to need hospitalization, according to what we are being told, are the ones who need to self quarantine. What would the benefit be for the entire world to lie to us and what are they lying to us about? “She gave me money, when I’m in need.......” lol
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Re: Positive but NO symptoms?
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03/23/20 09:36 AM
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I asked a question and didn’t get an answer. “What am I testing for if I feel fine.”
I could very likely give any number of illnesses to an at risk individual if I feel fine.
The responsibility should fall on those high risk folks just like any other illness.
I know of one young adult who went to Cal. and brought the virus back. She went to work where she got sick and went to the hospital where she tested positive. They tested everyone in the restaurant where she worked to see if anyone was infected. No one was and so they knew they could disinfect the place of business and those who were there were safe to keep working. None had symptoms . Was that over reacting? If one had tested positive would you have them go to work in a food service place knowing they were a carrier? I know you may not have had time to read the whole thread. I posted this a while back and did not skirt your question but I had already gave one example of why they may test someone without symptoms. LLL
Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
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Re: Positive but NO symptoms?
[Re: jbyrd63]
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03/23/20 09:42 AM
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I don’t know of anyone that test positive that wouldn’t quarantine themselves.
If you were knowingly exposed, you should be tested because of the higher risk.
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Re: Positive but NO symptoms?
[Re: danny clifton]
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03/23/20 09:43 AM
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I see that in italy right now there are 886 cases per million people. Looking at the numbers there is no place where even one percent of the population is sick. I am begaining to doubt the wisdom of crashing a vibrant economy over this. I am following the guidelines as well. Doesn't change what I posted earlier. Less than 1% sick anyplace. Is that worth tanking the economy over? 30-40 people out of each million dying? Those at risk know who they are and can self quarantine. Those people who get sick will do what we always do when sick. Go home and stay in bed. So we can heal and also to not keep spreading it. The only thing making sense in my mind is that we are likely being lied too. Either this bug is 100 times worse than we are being told , OR, we are being manipulated for some reason that has nothing to do with a new strain of flu. Like I said, no mass die off of the homeless or prisoners. Yet So I am to believe that the whole government to include Rand Paul and Donald Trump want to wreck our economy? Come on man. You are way smarter than that. They see what is possible and the potential of what may happen if nothing is done. If Trump did not act and a bunch of people died then you would have this type of anarchy potentially as the new norm. They would blame him for inaction and elect someone else. Food shortages and fuel shortages are no big thing when communists run things. LLL
Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
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Re: Positive but NO symptoms?
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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03/23/20 09:44 AM
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I don’t know of anyone that test positive that wouldn’t quarantine themselves.
If you were knowingly exposed, you should be tested because of the higher risk. That is all I am saying. Go back and read some of the posts on the first or second page and you may see that ignorance is a potential reason. Or selfishness. LLL
Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
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Re: Positive but NO symptoms?
[Re: jbyrd63]
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That is what I am beginning to think LL. The lie is that this bug is 100 times worse than we are being told. Death rates will be huge if left unchecked and may be anyway. We should know in a week or so. In spite of Calvin talking about the superhero immune systems of the homeless, if this thing is worth collapsing our economic infra structure over, they will be dropping like fleas off a dead coyote you just sprayed with raid.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Positive but NO symptoms?
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That is what I am beginning to think LL. The lie is that this bug is 100 times worse than we are being told. Death rates will be huge if left unchecked and may be anyway. We should know in a week or so. In spite of Calvin talking about the superhero immune systems of the homeless, if this thing is worth collapsing our economic infra structure over, they will be dropping like fleas off a dead coyote you just sprayed with raid. I could see it if we had socialists in power but for liberitarians and conservatives who love capitalism and a free market? I have to say BS on that one. Rand Paul tested positive for it and has pulmonary issues. I wonder if he thinks it is a lie? LLL
Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
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Re: Positive but NO symptoms?
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03/23/20 10:43 AM
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Larry I would isolate myself if I got it. I'm almost there now lol.I do find it ironic you will get to keep working cause you work alone yet everyone else is supposed to shut down.
Danny? Vibrant economy? It is a false economy and events like this bring it to light. The trillion dollar stimulus is the tip of yhe ice berg, the Fed announced unlimited bond and MBS purchase program
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: Positive but NO symptoms?
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for those that care what quarantine looked like in the beginning couple of weeks in China here is a pretty good mini doc video
Last edited by countrygun; 03/23/20 10:44 AM.
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Re: Positive but NO symptoms?
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03/23/20 10:55 AM
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Larry I would isolate myself if I got it. I'm almost there now lol.I do find it ironic you will get to keep working cause you work alone yet everyone else is supposed to shut down.
Danny? Vibrant economy? It is a false economy and events like this bring it to light. The trillion dollar stimulus is the tip of yhe ice berg, the Fed announced unlimited bond and MBS purchase program
49er I could be shut down and if they did I would do so. Where is the irony? I don't work in a place where there are a lot of people in close contact? Is it ironic that a trapper could keep working? Logger? Like I said I have been self isolating for decades. Been saving all my life. I cannot help it others have choose to be unprepared or choose the professions they are in. I believe in the concept of tithing. Not patting myself on the back but instead giving credit to where I believe it belongs. The more I am blessed the more I give to those who have nothing or little. This is not something my wife and I started yesterday. We taught that to our children and now they practice it also. They are all considered essential workers by the government and have been given papers that say that. In my belief there is no such thing as Irony. God is not ironic in those matters. LLL
Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
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Re: Positive but NO symptoms?
[Re: jbyrd63]
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I see so aal the other workers can lose their houses but because of your job choice you can work. Of course if the economy goes in the tank people will start mowing their grass and coons will be worth 3 bucks.
Guys like you, I and most trappers will get by but I have a real concern the cure will be worse than the disease
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: Positive but NO symptoms?
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49er you think that this virus thing is to cover a collapsing dollar? LL you don't think our government, Trump included, is capable of telling us that a disease is lot less dangerous than it is to stave off panic? We average 3000 deaths A DAY from vehicle accidents world wide and 100 of those are in the U.S. https://www.asirt.org/safe-travel/road-safety-facts/Annual United States Road Crash Statistics Over 37,000 people die in road crashes each year An additional 2.35 million are injured or disabled Over 1,600 children under 15 years of age die each year Nearly 8,000 people are killed in crashes involving drivers ages 16-20 Road crashes cost the U.S. $230.6 billion per year, or an average of $820 per person Road crashes are the single greatest annual cause of death of healthy U.S. citizens
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Positive but NO symptoms?
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Danny I do not believe the virus was created to sink the system I do think the system is destined to fail, not necessarily now
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: Positive but NO symptoms?
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I see so aal the other workers can lose their houses but because of your job choice you can work. Of course if the economy goes in the tank people will start mowing their grass and coons will be worth 3 bucks.
Guys like you, I and most trappers will get by but I have a real concern the cure will be worse than the disease I never once said I do not have compassion for others. I stated quite the opposite. My people are all older and have me mow because the heat would kill them faster than the virus. We all have our choices we make. It is a free country to do what you want as far as how you make a living. I am saying if you are not prepared for things that is on you. I will help someone whenever I can. I will do things for others beyond what I am called to do. I see no irony in being blessed or cursed for that matter. My faith is what I rely on in all seasons not just storms. Coons are near worthless but I do not rely on them to pay my mortgage or my utility bills. I was planning on getting a different pickup this year because we just paid the wife's car off. (another blessing). I will not because I do not think it is wise and I can get by with out it. It is guys like us that have a little extra to help out others in times like this and I am sure you are. LLL
Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
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Re: Positive but NO symptoms?
[Re: jbyrd63]
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03/23/20 11:41 AM
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"LL you don't think our government, Trump included, is capable of telling us that a disease is lot less dangerous than it is to stave off panic? We average 3000 deaths A DAY from vehicle accidents world wide and 100 of those are in the U.S."
Danny you are the one saying it is not as bad as they are saying. That statement belongs in the good joke thread because it is very funny (ironic).
The traffic fatality death is the only reason the government makes you wear a seat belt and can be compared to why they are giving the guidance they are on the virus. If you do not listen it CAN kill you. Do what they say and it may save a life. Thanks for pointing that out. I would add that no one can quantify how many lives are saved by just buckling a seat belt just like we cannot quantify how many lives are saved by doing what they are asking us to do here. Some will say it was overplayed if it does not kill a lot of folks. If it does kill a lot some will say we did to little. That is the nature of the human ego. Can't please everyone. LLL
Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
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