Re: My FHA fur is now posted
[Re: GROUSEWIT]
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03/24/20 04:04 PM
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[quote=crosspatch]Thank you Wissmiss and Lee Steinmeyer once again. You are both constant sources of info. based on logic and reason and first hand sourcing. You spare us the shooting from the hip that is all too common on this forum and a waste of cyberspace and all of our time. Please continue. Spot on thanks for answering the questions you can.
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Re: My FHA fur is now posted
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03/24/20 04:17 PM
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rpmartin
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As stated above, to me valuations would help hold the line on how much things are being sold below that. A small percentage below the valuation to me anyway is not a big deal but when stuff starts selling 25 or 50% below the estimated value is when I start asking questions. So yes that's why I would like to know what the difference between valuation and actual price paid. With that said I hope they have a fantastic sale and the next one is even better.
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Re: My FHA fur is now posted
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03/24/20 04:38 PM
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Imo valuations are only a ,,I hope to get price,, if you want them to hold the line ,,, no matter what only way of doing that is selling one on one. Besides theres only so much fur you can keep stored for long extend times in a market like we got. Hopefully all will sell good everybody be sitting good.
Kenneth schoening
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Re: My FHA fur is now posted
[Re: Joe krogman]
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03/24/20 06:28 PM
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Guess I'm guilty about switching this from top lot coon to coyotes, but it's better than politics and corona virus. Lol . Hope they have good clearances. THATS OK , LOL we are talking fur at FHA , I hope we all do good for the times
50 + years of trapping & some fur buying and i still know nothing.
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Re: My FHA fur is now posted
[Re: trapperne]
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03/24/20 06:57 PM
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Showing valuations would do a ton of good, it would hold Fha accountable and a lot less easy to dump something. It make the buyers know you better come to bid and be reasonable and close to the valuations. It would probably reduce the yo-yo in prices we have seen for so long. We better not hear in a couple months how groeny came in and cleaned up what was left at the auction for less then what was being paid in the country Not really if you are using NAFA as your example. They posted valuations for both buyer and seller but it didn't seem to make much difference.
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Re: My FHA fur is now posted
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03/24/20 07:02 PM
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I get it that the buyers need valuation for an internet auction like this one, so everyone knows where to start. But I did question the practice of providing valuation to buyers at a true auction format in the past. It seems like that should have been kept confidential to the auction house since they were not firm on it anyway, and often started bidding below valuation just to get rolling.
Last edited by walleye101; 03/24/20 07:04 PM.
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Re: My FHA fur is now posted
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03/24/20 07:21 PM
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rpmartin
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Correct me if wrong but isn't the fur still owned by the seller until the gavel drops or the buyer pays for the fur? Either way I just don't agree with the auction house keeping the sellers, (owners) of the fur in the dark and giving the buyers the valuation. Looks like to me the deck is stacked in the buyers favor.
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Re: My FHA fur is now posted
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03/24/20 08:18 PM
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I'm with Dirt-they should publish the valuations of all grades and sections before the fur pick up. Allows a buisness man to make an informed decision about how he wants to market part or all of his fur collection. Most trappers that market substantial amounts of fur and been around for a while doing so can pretty much know the valuation anyway from previous sales.
Last edited by Boco; 03/24/20 08:21 PM.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: My FHA fur is now posted
[Re: novatrapper01]
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03/24/20 08:23 PM
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Fingers crossed for the sale. Hopefully it goes well. I’m a little nervous about my big bear, hard to get any price on taxidermy items without actually putting your hands on them to check them out. Might be the best thing since sliced bread! Hopefully you will do well on bear like you have!
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