Re: Anyone Cast Bullets or fishing weights?
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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I have made a bunch of egg sinkers. Wheel weights work great for them My son worked a few years at a school bus repair shop. They did not reuse the weights. He brought me close to a 100 lbs.
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Re: Anyone Cast Bullets or fishing weights?
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Lee hot pot....make all my round balls for muzzleloading Got the same setup i pour for 41 and 44mag spinner bauts buzz baits and jigs J
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Re: Anyone Cast Bullets or fishing weights?
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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I use a lee 20# bottom pour I only wish I had 2 pots when I really get a rhythm going on the 6 cavity mold I am running low and would like to just switch pots and keep going while the other pot melts more ingots
I smelt in a Stainless steel 8 quart stock pot on an LP burner I have though about cutting down an LP 20# cylinder to make a pot but haven't gotten to it yet
DO NOT use an Aluminum pot they fail under that kind of heat and they do it all at once.
if you use cast iron , it never goes back to any sort of food ever again. do not tap or bang the ladle on cast iron
always wear long pants , boots , long sleeves and safety glasses shoes need to not be tennis shoes made of plastic the led goes right through them but boots of leather
it is not nice when a live primer finds it's way into your lead pot , spewing hot lead when it goes off , it apparently fell into the bucket of sprue and got put back in the pot , they detonate about the same time they are surrounded in molten lead. got saved by the PPE.
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Re: Anyone Cast Bullets or fishing weights?
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I keep thinking I need one of those lee pots. I use a ladle. Do it outside so fumes are not a problem. use an old kitchen pot with no handle and my turkey fryer. I made two ladles. One out of a big spoon and one out of a smaller spoon. smaller spoon is for balls and bullets and small sinkers, the big spoon for big sinkers. i reshaped both spoons a bit with pliers and mapp gas. I put wood handles on the small spoon by drilling and making rivets with round stock brass. Else it was to hot to use. I have shot a lot of wheel weight bullets out of my 357. blackpowder i use soft plumbers lead. Wheel weights are used for sinkers too.
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Re: Anyone Cast Bullets or fishing weights?
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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I do bullets and fishing sinkers and some jigs and buck shot. I use the bottom pour and the ladle , my dad taught me how to make fishing sinkers with the use of sand and news paper and lead. He use to work in the foundry before I was born . I cast for shotgun and rifle and hand gun and muzzle loader also.
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Re: Anyone Cast Bullets or fishing weights?
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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I do and have for even longer then I have been reloading because I started out shooting black powder and cap and ball revolvers and started casting my own bullets soon after and it grew rapidly as my shooting did
Back in the day it seemed every tire shop had buckets of old wheel weights but not so much anymore and more often then not what they do have is spoken for so it can be hard to find lead for casting
One way that I have found is to keep an eye on Craigslist for someone that has an old sailboat to scrap out the ballast is often made up of lead and just one can give you more lead then you can use in a year also a lot of sail boats that have lead ballast are changing over to water ballast so have to get rid of the lead which is often in large blocks often as much as 50# which can be hard to handle but worth it in my opinion
Casting bullets is as addictive as reloading
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Re: Anyone Cast Bullets or fishing weights?
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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I used to cast a lot, just hit me up on Discord later if you have a specific question.
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Re: Anyone Cast Bullets or fishing weights?
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I've probably got a couple dozen moulds. It's all ammo. The most used is #1 buck which I also use for subsonic 30 caliber loads, 9mm which double as slugs in my Whammer Jammer ® crossbow, and 1oz 12ga slugs. I wouldn't bother with the shotgun slugs if they were just for hunting; but, I go through tons of them in a Saiga 12 with 20 round drum magazine.
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Re: Anyone Cast Bullets or fishing weights?
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I have not melted anything as of yet but the old man who owned the cabin before us was an avid reloader. He left behind basically everything needed including about 5 5gl buckets full of lead and a couple buckets of ingots he had made. At this point I have too many irons in the fire but some day in the near future I will be adding this to the to do list. Let’s see some other folks set ups and keep this going!
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Re: Anyone Cast Bullets or fishing weights?
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Making sinkers out of wheel weight lead is a real waste of good bullet lead. The issue being wheel weights are not lead any more but zinc or steel. A couple ounces of zinc in a 10 or 20 pound batch of bullet lead will ruin the melt. The mold won't fill out properly no matter what you do. The alloy that I use most is 20 pounds of WW plus 2%, about 6.5 ounces tin. The tin decreases the surface tension of the melt for better mold fill out. I get my tin by melting down pewter cups, bowls, or nick nacks that I pick up at garage sales. I have a stock pile of old WW's (7 or 8 hundred pounds), 300 or 400 pounds of linotype and I don't know how much pure lead from lead pipe, x-ray sheathing, flashing, and plumbers lead pigs. Another source is range scrap. Once or twice a year I go to work on the pistol bay at my local gun club on a Sunday morning. Can't shoot before 1:00 pm. Just take a shovel, my dirt sifter, and a couple 5 gallon buckets and have at it. Range lead makes pretty fair alloy, just add a little linotype to harden it up a touch and you are good to go. Never smelt in the same pot you are casting from. When smelting I flux with pine sawdust, when casting I flux with bees wax. Don't worry about the bullet jackets or WW clips, they float to the surface and you just scoop them off. I rarely use anything but WW. Once in a while if I want something harder I use Lyman #2. It's easily made up using 9 pounds of WW and 1 pound of 50/50 solder or 8 ounces of pure lead and 8 ounces of pewter. Reclaimed shot works well though it's a little expensive.
Bullet casting is enjoyable and not overly complicated. You just need to be aware of a few things, willing to do a little home work/leg work, and be ready to spend some cash. Smelting equipment, casting pot, ladle, mold and handles, ingot mold (an old muffin pan), a lubricator/sizer and sizing die of the proper size with top punch, and a good micrometer. A lead hardness tester would be nice but a set of good drafting pencils will work. You use the different hardness pencils to scratch or not scratch the lead. You'll have to google the chart to figure out what corresponds to what hardness.
Wolfie, I have only scratched the surface and I know you will have lots of questions so shoot me a pm and I'll help you figure it out. The only guns of mine that get fed jacketed are my rifles. All my hand guns get cast. I've killed an good bunch of deer with my hand guns using cast bullets. Never really had to track any. They either drop right there or go down in sight.
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Re: Anyone Cast Bullets or fishing weights?
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/28/20 10:36 PM
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I run a Lee pro 4 20 because no one makes a 40# pot those little electric ladles are if you pour a few jigs or weights occasionally. if you plan production then a bottom pour is the way to go. an electric hot plate is also handy toss an old saw blade on it and you can pre heat the ingots then set your mold on it to keep warm a ingot at 350 gets to 700 a lot faster than an ingot at 50 does , it also makes sure there is no moisture on your ingot use a channel locks to pick up ingots and add them to the pot and keep that mold warm if you are pouring more than 2-3 oz weights you drain that pot fast I cast some 1oz conicals for the muzzle loader , those drain a pot quick you never actually want to fully empty the pot (unless your cleaning it ) just get down to about 1/3 to 1/4 full then add more lead when I set down to knock out a thousand of something in the 125-200gr range I am wishing I had 2 pots but don't know that for the money there is anything better than the Lee Pro 4 20 so I just take a break and keep the mold warm on the hot plate if your trying to make 1/2 or 1 pound weights for nets and such , a pot on a gas burner with a metal ladle a big ladle https://www.rotometals.com/ladles-dippers/ big enough to get the weight of the sinker in a single pour +20% for the sprue a good puddle is essential to a fully formed casting.
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