Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
[Re: warrior]
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03/28/20 09:59 PM
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Stay on topic. Secondhand smoke is you bring the virus home from spring break and killing your grandmother. You dont like those numbers , so how bout the flu ? 50,000 a year dead and you dont stay in your house do you ?
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Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
[Re: warrior]
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03/28/20 10:02 PM
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Id say 100,000 in US
480,000 die from ciggarette smoke every year in the usa
41,000 of those are from 2nd hand smoke
1300 every day Smoking is a choice. A choice I made over 30 years ago and probably will until I die whether they kill me or not. Catching some virus because dumbasses spread the crap faster the medical professionals can fight it ain't my choice. Secondhand smoke,the equivalent of murder by cigarette, kills 41000 a year and it's usually not their choice.
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Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
[Re: danny clifton]
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03/28/20 10:10 PM
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We could go round and round all night but until you look these folks in the eyes and see the fear you'll never understand. I feel sorry for them of course I also feel bad for most of the 2,700,000 that die every year in the usa I wonder if the cv19 will add to those numbers or replace some of the other causes maintaining total
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Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
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You'll probably see that number by the end of April. What no one on this thread seems to understand is the concept of exponential spread. The death rate in the US went from 1000 to 2000 in less than 3 days. That doesn't mean it increased by 1000 (even though it did). It means it doubled. IF it just increased by 1,000 every day, it wouldn't be so bad but that's not what the experts say is happening. If this thing keeps spreading the way it is... by Tuesday you'll have 4000 dead. By Friday you'll have 8,000. The following Monday, 16,000. By Tax Day, 120,000 dead in the US. THAT is what exponential spread means, an that is will what happen if we don't do better at containing this than we are now.
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Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
[Re: danny clifton]
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03/28/20 10:25 PM
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Angela you seem to be confusing exponential spread with mortality rate. I’ll let you figure out why. For the record the “expert” from the UK that predicted 500,000 deaths has changed his “theory” to 20,000.
I know you probably read a Facebook meme that explained it to you so maybe you can enlighten us?
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Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
[Re: WadeRyan]
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Yote you seem to be confusing exponential spread with mortality rate. I’ll let you figure out why. For the record the “expert” from the UK that predicted 500,000 deaths has changed his “theory” to 20,000. No I was just illustrating how exponential spread affects the mortality rate. When the cases are doubling every three days, the deaths will as well, unless of course the fatality rate changes course from what it's been. This will explain it to everyone better than I can. https://www.forbes.com/sites/starts...r-the-covid-19-coronavirus/#7228d4004e9b
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Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
[Re: WadeRyan]
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I know you probably read a Facebook meme that explained it to you so maybe you can enlighten us?
Facebook memes are fun, but I prefer listening to various doctors explain things in the national and state press conferences. Figure the infectious disease specialists probably know more about it than trappers do.
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Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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Yote you seem to be confusing exponential spread with mortality rate. I’ll let you figure out why. For the record the “expert” from the UK that predicted 500,000 deaths has changed his “theory” to 20,000. No I was just illustrating how exponential spread affects the mortality rate. When the cases are doubling every three days, the deaths will as well, unless of course the fatality rate changes course from what it's been. This will explain it to everyone better than I can. https://www.forbes.com/sites/starts...r-the-covid-19-coronavirus/#7228d4004e9bAwww there you go ! Nice save....or was it? I’d say the mortality rate will decrease as the virus spreads. Call me crazy.
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Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
[Re: danny clifton]
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The mortality rate is flawed and sparks fear
Many had it and recovered before testing was available
Many have it and are denied testing and sent home even with the symptoms because they dont meet certain requirements
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Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
[Re: WadeRyan]
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Awww there you go ! Nice save....or was it? I’d say the mortality rate will decrease as the virus spreads. Call me crazy.
Not sure why you're so antagonistic, lol... but I truly do hope that I am wrong and you are right.
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Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
[Re: danny clifton]
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03/28/20 10:44 PM
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The current covid-19 deaths in NY matches the all other causes deaths in NY, it will probably surpass that tomorrow...and that is a week or more after shutdowns...imagine where it would be if no one/nothing shut down?
Whats happening in NY is a prelude to what is going to happen all over the USA as this thing spreads......and it is going to spread no matter what precautions are taken. It will either spread very rapidly or very slowly or somewhere in between those two choices.
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Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
[Re: amspoker]
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03/28/20 10:48 PM
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Ok crazy.
Let's talk in two weeks. Hopefully I’ve got time. Things sure are ramping up. I think if we could test for Covid-19 as fast as we can influenza with the availability of testing this virus wouldn’t have been a blimp on the radar and everyone would still be fighting about bounced NAFA checks. If nothing else maybe this virus will open up conversation about multiple issues this country faces on a daily basis that the general public doesn’t bat an eye over.
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