Re: Retroactive testing?
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If this already ran its course last november we wouldnt be having this outbreak of it now. I think this has already spread faster and further than people realize now. If you think you dont have it in your hometown, you are probably wrong. For instance we just found out a neighbor down the road tested positive for this friday. She got sick monday and took the test...and was infected sometime the previous week or two. SO by the time you get a positive test it has already been around and noone knew it,
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Re: Retroactive testing?
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I don't think that is anything we'd expect to see until get past the big bubble so to speak.. Would think they could or maybe even want to make post exposure test.. Could even be part of the research they're doing now. Just don't hear about it in the all the hub-bub. Would think eventually the statistics type people would want some kinda sample??
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Re: Retroactive testing?
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I know this is impossible, but for the sake of discussion think about this: How many people this past winter/fall have had Covid 19 and recovered without ever even knowing any different? I think it would be very interesting to see. I don't doubt the seriousness of this situation at all, but I am betting several people have had this and never thought of it other than a normal flu. I am not going to argue with anyone, just wondering what others think. I think 100's of thousands had it before it had a name or a test. I think right now thousands who have it are denied testing and sent home. The scary numbers don't reflect any of this
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Re: Retroactive testing?
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Speaking of Testing, in my area, they won’t give you a test even if you have all of the symptoms, “Unless” you have travelled abroad. Pretty stupid, I think, when this area has hundreds of thousands of people coming from abroad. (The Grand Circle). Lake Powell, Grand Canyon, Horseshoe Bend, etc. etc.
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Re: Retroactive testing?
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I think OP is asking about CV antibody testing. It looks like the tests will be available fairly soon. This will allow you to determine if you have already had the virus, whether or not you had symptoms or were asymptomatic. If you have the antibodies the thought is is you will then have some degree of immunity. There may already be a lot of us who are already immune but just don't know it.
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Re: Retroactive testing?
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This ^^^^^^
And once tested, if you are showing antibodies, and yet no current positive for the virus (meaning not still spewing active virus to infect others), those appear to be good candidates to go back to work / circulation. The first step in re-starting the economy. This assumes the antibodies are still good and you are not likely to get infected again.
If this works, those folks will be the first wave to go back to work, and maybe even work in high risk places. That may even include a lot of folks who are still laying low in isolation out of fear they might get it.
So two critical tests still needed.....one for antibodies and one for the virus. The cheap and quick kind of tests. They are supposed to be coming.
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Re: Retroactive testing?
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They will not use a test on you here unless you are sick enough to need hospitalization. They send you home to quarantine. The first positive test we had in this county was a doctor that got tested. There are PLENTY of people around that show all the symptoms of it but arent bad enough to really need a doc. So the "numbers" everyone here cant even be close to right. Only thing they can count accurately is dead people.
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Re: Retroactive testing?
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A couple things to consider. Whooping cough was going through the population last fall. It gave a nasty dry cough that for some, led to pneumonia. As far as I’ve read, nobody here was looking for a new/novel corona virus because there was a candidate already that provided an explanation.
Yeah, the novel corona virus, eventually dubbed covid-19 started in Asia but so what? Everything starts somewhere. As I’ve written before, China didn’t report it to the rest of the world because they had no definitive test to use to find it: you can’t report what you don’t know. Our problem was that we didn’t act when China had a test and were telling us it was coming.
Let’s stop pointing fingers. We knew it was coming and now that it’s here, we’re tasked with understanding it better and treating those who have. It’s time to get ‘er done. This is what America is better known for. Let’s do it.
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Re: Retroactive testing?
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More people are going to die of poverty ( bankruptcy )and lose of insurance then this virus will probably kill.
Hope you feel better soon. The economic ramifications of the reactions to covid-19 are going to be bad. Movie theaters will be down for many months, sports stadiums will not be filled again this year, restaurants are basically finished for dine in for months or the year, brick and mortar college campuses are done for the year....maybe longer....all those college towns are in for a hard time, travel industry, cruise industry, airlines, all small shops/businesses, barber, hair salon, manicure salons, city and county revenues from tickets issued via police will be @ an all time low because police want to stay away from people......lack of police patrols/early release of criminals = higher crime....and this is worldwide....I hear India is going to make over a billion people stay at home for a month. You shut down the global economy as it never has ever been shut down before and anything can happen....maybe this was the globalist/china plan form the get go? People are still trying to get their heads wrapped around the virus and have not really thought of what is going to happen after....or really right now as the shut down effects are upon us @ this minute..this thing peaks in june/july and then is right back ramping up in Sept..... And how is it that China had so few cases/deaths????????
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Re: Retroactive testing?
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Logistically there are certain numbers nobody releases. Like what % of your armed forces have been infected, for one. Telling the world 4% of your troops are ill let’s one’s enemies know you’re vulnerable. #2, Every kid entering college in China is made a soldier. Every college kid gets a uniform and goes through a couple weeks of military training. It isn’t vigorous, but it gives them a taste. They are considered student soldiers for the 4 years of college, but they can be called up any time the government feels there is a need. I doubt they’d report the student soldier numbers either. I suspect the numbers in state run businesses (factories and power plants) might also not be reported again to avoid showing an enemy another area of weakness.
It’s still got to be going on all over the country. They’re just not as open as we are in sharing the numbers. I know for a fact that k-12 education is still being done by video. College is being done the same way. From what I’ve heard, city streets and highways are sparsely populated. People are staying in as much as possible even now.
But, and you can read this online from AXIOS and CNBC, the Chinese are going to be flying in 22 flights of medical gear and all of this has been coordinated via FEMA in the coming weeks. If they’re such a threat, we wouldn’t have sent tons of medical supplies to them in their hours of need nor would our government be buying 60% of what they’re shipping now.
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