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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6821697
03/29/20 12:10 PM
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I think with everything going on right now we need to joke around otherwise we'll end up like old boco.

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: kingrat] #6821910
03/29/20 03:19 PM
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Seemed pretty hard grade on size for me on coon. Sent in 84 coon which measured 24-4X, 26-3X, 25-2X, 5-Xl, 3-L, 1-M They graded them 3-4X-3X, 22-3X, 27-2X, 22-Xl, 9-L, 1-M.

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: kingrat] #6821916
03/29/20 03:27 PM
03/29/20 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by kingrat
I think with everything going on right now we need to joke around otherwise we'll end up like old boco.


Impossible !!

Nobody else could end up being that screwed up like BOCO !!!! laugh

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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6821943
03/29/20 04:07 PM
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Well keep in mind hes French so it's only half his fault.

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6821953
03/29/20 04:15 PM
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Coonrich! I am in full agreement! The coon I sent up there were all over the map and I've never seen a fisher grade the the one I got on my batch! Consent anything ip there usually but spring beaver and cant say I'm thrilled about trying them with the rest of my stuff!

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6821979
03/29/20 04:38 PM
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As far as the online sale process, let's remember that just a couple of weeks ago they were still planning to have a live auction using NAFA's auction system. For them to pull this off at all was pretty impressive. If they hold the line with reasonable valuations they may not move much product, but I'm ok with that. Just a page or two back everybody was barking about a fire sale.

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6821986
03/29/20 04:46 PM
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This keeps up, cheese will outdo the shortage of tp

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: kingrat] #6821991
03/29/20 04:53 PM
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Irish.


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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: Boco] #6822032
03/29/20 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Irish.


See That,

He's definitely trying to hide something !!!! shocked

Boco's a Closet Frog !!! laugh

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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: IllinoisTraps58] #6822039
03/29/20 05:33 PM
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Always have a couple fisher coon over last 20 years and I know I had a couple this years but none graded fisher this year. Not complaining on color grade just seemed like they downed sized alot of big coon. Scraped and stretched the same as years before plus had nicer coon this year less tick bits.

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: walleye101] #6822049
03/29/20 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by walleye101
As far as the online sale process, let's remember that just a couple of weeks ago they were still planning to have a live auction using NAFA's auction system. For them to pull this off at all was pretty impressive. If they hold the line with reasonable valuations they may not move much product, but I'm ok with that. Just a page or two back everybody was barking about a fire sale.


Obviosly they are motivated.


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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6822074
03/29/20 05:51 PM
03/29/20 05:51 PM
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I would say that if this online auction is something that will be done in the future, trappers will be able to check their lots and see how the bids are going. This was thought up and put in to play so fast that there was no way to get everything connected to trappers accounts. And all of this took place while they were dealing with thousands of new shippers. I’ve never had a complaint since I started sending fur to them. Not saying this sale is the answer but with everything going on I don’t know if there is a good answer this year.
Just my 2 cents

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: coonrich] #6822076
03/29/20 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by coonrich
Always have a couple fisher coon over last 20 years and I know I had a couple this years but none graded fisher this year. Not complaining on color grade just seemed like they downed sized alot of big coon. Scraped and stretched the same as years before plus had nicer coon this year less tick bits.


I don't think any place knows how to read a tape measure anymore.

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: IllinoisTraps58] #6822138
03/29/20 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Horse Creek Fur
FHA Rocks! Someone had to say it. Lots of good points being made. Sweltering in place is blossoming thought. I think we need FHA. NAFA can make a comeback if FHA is more secretive than trappers care for. I recall someone suggesting we don’t make any strong opinions on FHA with this auction/sale. I agree but there will be plenty of thoughts on it. We should discuss it. And it’s ok to disagree without being disagreeable. Hope that don’t sound like I’m whining.


We definitely need an international auction to continue. I see nothing good coming from one major fur buyer dominating the entire fur market.

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: walleye101] #6822165
03/29/20 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by walleye101
Originally Posted by Horse Creek Fur
FHA Rocks! Someone had to say it. Lots of good points being made. Sweltering in place is blossoming thought. I think we need FHA. NAFA can make a comeback if FHA is more secretive than trappers care for. I recall someone suggesting we don’t make any strong opinions on FHA with this auction/sale. I agree but there will be plenty of thoughts on it. We should discuss it. And it’s ok to disagree without being disagreeable. Hope that don’t sound like I’m whining.


We definitely need an international auction to continue. I see nothing good coming from one major fur buyer dominating the entire fur market.


I agree with you. We also need local buyers. I remember back in the early eighties I could visit 4 different buyers within a 40 minute drive. Not to mention the ones that had routes coming around. They were around pretty frequent too. Not a couple times a season. Then the bottom fell out of the market. Some quit others lost the farm. Some went to work for others. Like NAFA. Working for Groenwold and so on. I sure hope through the present times we don't lose them like that again. I think we need as many options as we can get to market our fur. Remember competition is a good thing.

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6822201
03/29/20 07:17 PM
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I disagree with allowing the shippers to follow an online auction, especially the way this one is set up. There is almost nothing to follow. A shipper would log in every day and see no action (or very little) action on their account and it would drive them CRAZY!!

When you listen to a live auction, everything moves right along at a rapid pace. Every minute or so, they are on to a different lot. Plenty of action to follow. The entire sale is wrapped up in say 8 hours.

With this on line auction, the 8 hour live auction is spread over 9 days!! That is like taking one hour of a live auction and dragging it out for 24 hours. One word describes that - S. L. O. W

Fine, let the shippers see their valuations. Let them see the catalog when the sale is over. I can’t think of any good reason to allow them to “watch” the actual auction.


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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: walleyed] #6822203
03/29/20 07:19 PM
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When I value an article,there are 2 things that are used,what they have been selling for on the last 3 sales,could be FHA or NAFA sales.This information is posted after each sale,buyers keep these records and use them for wild and ranch fur,trappers can do this also.
The second is demand verses inventory,this is the most important part of putting any value on an article.This has been a very hard year to read as there has not been a sale this year,the last wild fur sale was at NAFA in August of 2019,with mixed results.
This year we graded all the coon in Cambridge,I graded and adjusted sizes.For the 40 some years at grading coon the one complaint from buyers is that east,west north,south have different widths.Raccoon,regardless of section are sized on the same standard,narrow in the shoulders,7inch boards are all reasons to be down sized.
If you look at other articles,beaver-all sections sized the same,muskrats - 1 size and for all,mink coyotes ect. It all comes down to square inches,and by giving the raccoon sizes a standard will help all sections.Ican still remember when we had different sizing boards for each section,coat,semi ect.
We will post sale results on April 3rd,lets hope for the best.

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6822245
03/29/20 07:54 PM
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I understand Industry standards But.


How does a coon lose square Inches from how It's boarded?
If you use a narrow board you might lose width but that turns Into length. When that coon Is hydrated before tanning doesn't It have the same square Inches that It had when It was harvested and boarded?
Your not losing square Inches your just displaying them differently.


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Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6822272
03/29/20 08:15 PM
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Thanks for the update Greg.

Re: My FHA fur is now posted [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #6822282
03/29/20 08:21 PM
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Results or Sold Catalog? I need Sold Catalog before April 10.


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