Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
[Re: wallfur]
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This virus started in China 100 miles from the capital city of beijing.yet there is not death there!why?? Are they lieing about the numbers? Or was it planned virus? Do they have a vaccine for it?? Beijiy is a city of millions and not one death....hmmmmm This stuff going on,definately looks very sucipicipus. Man made by scientist. Goverment. Any kind globe or national emergency. Worse than this. Would not surprise me a bit now
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Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
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...Take that number times 10 or more if no government involvement.... Its not the number if things are left alone!! False. Sweden has not done anything for this CoV. No lockdowns, no social distancing, no extra hand wringing, err, washing. Yet Sweden's CFR is half of Michigan's and twice Wisconsin's, to pick two appropriately sized States. Which leads one to ponder that the precautions are doing tremendous economic harm while doing no health good. Just as I've been saying for the last two months. The actual (non media hyped) numbers just aren't adding up to a healthcare disaster.
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Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
[Re: danny clifton]
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Further, we already have a cure. At least three human trials in at least two countries using FDA approved drugs with many years of safe, effective use behind them. This CoV is just a slight variant in a large family of viruses that we've been dealing with for a very long time.
30% of all common colds are from viruses in the Corona family. Always have been. No one freaked out about the others. Not even SARS-CoV - with its 10% CFR! Ten *TIMES* this current CoV's!!! Yet it still didn't generate this level of panic.
Hmmm...
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Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
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I just read that Sweden has more cases than all the other nordic countries combined.Those countries all implemented social distancing.
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Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
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Further, we already have a cure. At least three human trials in at least two countries using FDA approved drugs with many years of safe, effective use behind them. This CoV is just a slight variant in a large family of viruses that we've been dealing with for a very long time.
30% of all common colds are from viruses in the Corona family. Always have been. No one freaked out about the others. Not even SARS-CoV - with its 10% CFR! Ten *TIMES* this current CoV's!!! Yet it still didn't generate this level of panic.
Hmmm... People ain't as brave as they think they are, Good thing they don't broadcast daily flu deaths every winter.
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Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
[Re: Boco]
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I just read that Sweden has more cases than all the other nordic countries combined.Those countries all implemented social distancing. Sweden has not gone into lockdown or enforced social distancing as heavily as others, but they have been doing social distancing since Mar 16. Sweden has also done case based self isolation (Mar 10), banned public events (Mar 12), and closed schools (Mar 18). Here is a link to an unfiltered scientific research paper from 30 Mar. Sweden is one of the 11 countries studied. https://www.imperial.ac.uk/mrc-glob...is/covid-19/report-13-europe-npi-impact/
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Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
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CDC website has between 23,000 and 64,000 died from the flu this this past winter. We should've done something to lower that number?
Should be, between 24,000 and 63,000. My mistake.
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Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
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CDC website has between 23,000 and 64,000 died from the flu this this past winter. We should've done something to lower that number?
Should be, between 24,000 and 63,000. My mistake. No,thats normal year to year.
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Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
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I just read that Sweden has more cases than all the other nordic countries combined.Those countries all implemented social distancing. Not sure what countries were included in your reading, but if you combine the population of Norway & Finland then you roughly get the population of Sweden.
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Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
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This virus started in China 100 miles from the capital city of beijing.yet there is not death there!why?? Are they lieing about the numbers? Or was it planned virus? Do they have a vaccine for it?? Beijiy is a city of millions and not one death....hmmmmm This stuff going on,definately looks very sucipicipus. Man made by scientist. Goverment. Any kind globe or national emergency. Worse than this. Would not surprise me a bit now Breaking News: "Globalist conspire to destabilize world's wild fur Industry, and devalue Coonman's Raccoon pelt's" !! Film at 11:00.
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Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
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False.
Sweden has not done anything for this CoV. No lockdowns, no social distancing, no extra hand wringing, err, washing. This is actually false. The government introduced social distance guidelines and encouraged people to work from home. They also banned gatherings of over 50 and many businesses voluntarily closed. For what it's worth Sweden's gov't is currently drawing up legislation to take drastic steps in their fight. Per capita their death rate is 3 times higher than Norway and 9 times higher than Finland. They also have a culture far more prone to voluntarily follow "recommendations" for the greater good of society as a whole over the individual.
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Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
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You go outside in the Philippines they just shoot you, most are complying the others are being shot.
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Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
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According to worldometer update for 04/05 with breakdown by country, Sweden has 6830 cases. Denmark has 4369 cases, Finland 1927, Iceland 1486, and Norway 5687 cases for a total of 13469 cases in the other 4 countries. Sweden has 676 cases per million, Norway (drastically different approach) has 1,049 infections per million, or nearly twice the rate of infection.
This is all if the numbers are accurate.
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Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
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According to worldometer update for 04/05 with breakdown by country, Sweden has 6830 cases. Denmark has 4369 cases, Finland 1927, Iceland 1486, and Norway 5687 cases for a total of 13469 cases in the other 4 countries. Sweden has 676 cases per million, Norway (drastically different approach) has 1,049 infections per million, or nearly twice the rate of infection.
This is all if the numbers are accurate. Also the number of tested is important to know. If you test more you're going to find more infected. And how many infected doesn't make any difference in the whole scheme of things. It's The lethality and the severity that's scares or does not scare people
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Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
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CDC website has between 23,000 and 64,000 died from the flu this this past winter. We should've done something to lower that number?
Should be, between 24,000 and 63,000. My mistake. .......yes ,what do you suggest? and rather than hi jack this thread start your flu thread maybe we can come up with a solution for that alao.
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Re: U.S. corona death rate increase
[Re: danny clifton]
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Actually how many people died from the virus isn't what scares people it's how it is presented.
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