Can you yell fire in a crowded theater without repercussions?

Just because it's not a good idea doesn't mean the government should arrest you for it.

That exact situation exists right now in Brooklyn. Orthodox Jews continuing to meet at their synagogue have infected their entire community.

22, these people attended of their own free will knowing the possible consequences. It would be like the movie crowd knowing that someone was going to yell fire.

Lol

Go shoot a jukebox and see what happens!

Your rights end where the other man's nose begins!

Govt isn't telling you how or when to worship in the sense of our inalienable rights! Heck, they aren't even limiting the guidelines to churches!!!! They are telling everyone.

Most churches have a very high demographic of elderly folk! I'd suspect that will change real soon in churches like the one in question! The pastor is the head of the church. If anyone is to be arrested for civil disobedience? It should be him!

I was serious.

Out of respect for other people i choose not to gather in large crowds for the time being. Slowing down the spread of a virus that we don’t know much about and giving medical professionals some time to test some medications is a smart move in my opinion. It will also help to keep hospitals and the employees from being overwhelmed, It’s pretty bad when people can’t take a few weeks off of their normal routine to protect the safety of others.

My knee jerk opinion on these pastors is that they wanna make a name for themselves.

Because I don't see any logical reason why a pastor would put his church in harm's way needlessly! Just give it a couple weeks to at least see if it is what they say it is!

If it is!? Then you helped save lives!

If it ain't!? Then you tried to help save lives!

If it is as bad as what they say? This guy will get people killed!

"All things are lawful, but not all things are advantageous. "....


On the other hand, online meetings ARE the same as personal assemblies. To be reasonable . To be otherwise is to stumble others in fanatical unreasonableness.

The pastor was arrested for violating the law. No one was arrested for how they worship, what they worship, who they worship, what they read or think. No one is persecuting Christians with these restrictions ( There may be OTHER efforts in the political realm directed at Christians but this isn't it )

Contrary to what you have posted this "pastor" has violated the law. LAW made and passed by Congress, signed by a President and adjudicated by SCOTUS.

You are usually a lot more cogent in your arguments Goose. You are letting your religion overrule your logic.

That is neither good for your religion nor society.

You can still meet with fellow believers........just not in the numbers or places you are used to.

If your Christianity doesn't care about the rest of society, then something is missing in your belief system.

The old man has some good stories of the watts riots ..........he went through several boxes of 00 buck shot

J, my point is rights are not absolute. The people attending these services are going out into the public as well, they aren't just risking themselves, they are putting others in danger as well. It's bad enough that we have to go out to get supplies once in a while, why add to the chances of getting infected and infecting others. The right to worship or assemble is not being infringed upon.

Im not concerned so much with the religeous aspect of it as much as i am over a law made over a fake crisis and then an arrest .........snowball fallout

As one chief justice once said...".The Constitution is not a suicide pact"

Matthew 6-5, may be worth a read for some of these Pastors.

Exactly. Many are holding online meetings and seeing the logic of showing love-doing to others as they would wish done to themselves....without a single thing missing from their intent or message. All in compliance with unselfishness to those whom they preach in showing example in action.

Shall not be infringed. Guess that's a farce.

At least it's for the good of society.

I don't know what law you are referring to that was ..."made over a fake crisis.."

Not only that

But also,. The "guidelines" will multiply, tighten, and become more severe if we don't get this virus under control. There was mention today of making is all wear mask while we're out in public! I can't stand wearing hard hats and safety glasses! And I don't like confined spaces! Face mask would kill me!

Stay home!

At least half our population is part of the "essential service" work force. So anytime you go to th store, or anywhere else, at least half the people there are out mingling with other workers every work day. Doubtful many of these people are practicing "social distancing" while at work.
Medics are leading this country down the road to DEPRESSION! Some doctor here in Alaska just released a "model" that says we may have to hunker for months to slow the spread. Months? Really? Wonder if his model is one of those garbage in, garbage out models. Does anyone else notice that all the folks calling for, and supporting more restrictions have GUARANTEED incomes? How guaranteed will that income be when no one, except govt. employees, has the money to pay taxes?
We have had "pandemics" before. Didn't have to destroy lives financially then. Supposedly some other countries aren't forcing hunker down orders and dealing with the medical aspect satisfactorily. Maybe we could too if we didn't have fear mongering.
For those who will respond that we are saving lives I ask, are we? Did you count the increase in suicides? Did you count the increase in drug abuse/deaths? Will domestic violence/ deaths increase?
Minuchin was on today saying they are preparing for round 2 of stimulus money. Hey, maybe I can retire, move to my wilderness trapline, and get stimulus money for the rest of my freaking life!!!
MT