Um.......Bass10 are you feeling okay, man? I've never advocated for a right to shoot people, I'm not sure where that's coming from. That's just bizarre, and a strawman argument that's too strange to even attempt to get in to.

Gathering together when there is a virus spreading at an incredible rate that kills people and theres no way of knowing who has it is ABSOLUTELY equal to spraying a crowd with bullets, it may kill them or it may not if you had any COMMON SENSE you would understand that. But since you're stuck on it isn't in the constitution you think you have the right to go ahead and do it. We wouldn't even have to have laws if everybody had COMMON SENSE but it's obvious you are WHY there has to be laws. What you are doing by gathering is killing people in the name of religion just like some other counties in the middle east. Us TRUE Christians put the safety of our constituents before whether we think it's our right because the constitution says so now they'll have to make another law for you!

Who'd I kill?

This reminds me of sitting around the TV getting the latest Covid 19 news. (Apologies for the gallows humor).

Time will tell I hope for your sake and the sake of your family and friends that you "dodge the bullet" Take care!

Yeh I guess the point I was trying to make is how do you pick and choose what laws or rules the government puts in place are against your rights? My wife just told me they’re going to put more restrictions on how many people they’re allowing in a super market at one time, there they go again it should be the stores right to let a couple hundred a time in their stores!

Didn't say I understood it. But I do trust the source.

And again

It's happened before

None of this is adding up as far as I'm concerned. It's either worse than reported or a big hoax!

But if what I heard today about China lieing about actual numbers!? If say we are about to see a lot of death!

Its simple bass10. Read the constitution. Anything the constitution says the government can not do then they are not allowed to pass a law, or issue a decree, saying otherwise. The means to amend the constitution are in the constitution.

Lincoln issued a proclamation. He called it the emancipation proclamation. The whole thing was hot air. They had to change the constitution 3 years later to free slaves. If you believe the lie you were taught in Jr High history class you need to do a little research.

Proclamations, executive orders, or whatever else they want to call them, can not create a new law today anymore than they could 150 years ago. Especially if they violate what has been laid out in the constitution.

Saying the first amendment can be temporarily suspended for the greater good is so ridiculous I cant believe how many are agreeing that it is ok.

It was for the greater good that the Louisiana governor and the mayor of New Orleans had cops and National Guard confiscating firearms after Katrina

What is govt job?

I'm with ya Danny. I'm for the constitution when it's my savior on gun issues, and I'm also for it when it might kill me as in this case.

These guys can call us ignorant of whatever, I don't care.

I hear ya!

But I do believe govt can constitutionaly act in this way temporarily if need be. One of their jobs is to protect the nation and it's borders as a whole.

But I'm sure it's a fine line to be towed!

Hear the one thing I fear giving the day of age we live in.

Here the future headline by the he left: evangelicals responsible for spreading desease

Watch! One bone head preacher proven to have gotten someone killed will lead to that head line!

Won't be China's fault!
Won't be our govts fault for not acting!
Won't be your fault because you wouldn't adhere to guidelines!

It will be that evangelical Christian pastors fault for holding church service! Wait for it! I bet you see a head line soon!

Then when they have some catastrophe and they say you need to hand your guns over, your ok with that?

Can't imagine anything that would justify that.

And for that reason I would say no. Because I'm pretty sure anything they would say to justify that would be a lie. This on the other hand is a virus I would gladly let you have it you told me I didn't have to keep it.

Also, if you came to my house to kill one of my kids!? You had better kill me first!

That being said. If I could proove it was your stupidly by not adhering to guidelines that got my children sick and killed. You had better go ahead and kill me as well!

Your comparing apples to oranges

What freedoms are you giving up by obeying temporary guidelines?

I almost feel as if some people could care less if they hurt anyone!? So again I will say that your rights end where the other person's nose begins!

I'm a simple person as most here would agree.

It's either against the constitution or it isnt. If we allow one to be broken, it's only a matter of time until well allow all them to be broken.

That's what Abe said today. A temporary stay home order isn't against the Constitution. A punishment for the temperary stay at home order might be unconstitutional!? That why they say "guidelines". What is really being questioned is that some govenors are implementing punishment.

If it's illegal for people to gather in a private building, then I guess I'm wrong.