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Hoarders and profiteers #6828877
04/03/20 08:40 PM
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What should be done about the people and businesses that are profiteering on needed medical and other supplies?

Do they have the right to do what they're doing, or should we prosecute these scum-suckers?

See: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/com...ficials-are-coming-after-you/ar-BB128mFD

Jim


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Re: Hoarders and profiteers [Re: James] #6828883
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Are they breaking the law? If so, yes, and we should also go after medical facilities charging $700 for an aspirin.


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Re: Hoarders and profiteers [Re: James] #6828884
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James,
I beleive information is powe. Expose these (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) heads and when this is all said and done we can leave them to starve because none of us would ever shop there again.

And yes my fine Alaskan friend I lean toward the free market side of every argument and favor all manner of personal freedoms.


“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.”
Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers


Re: Hoarders and profiteers [Re: James] #6828886
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No that being said, with an iron clad court order that is constitutiona, seizures and vouchers for goods and services that can save lives are NOT out of the question in my mind anyway


“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.”
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Re: Hoarders and profiteers [Re: Gary Benson] #6828892
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Are they breaking the law? If so, yes, and we should also go after medical facilities charging $700 for an aspirin.

I agree 100%

Medical facilities have gouging people for a long time. Unfortunately , they are also some of the biggest lobbyists and deep into paying off their favorite politicians.


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Re: Hoarders and profiteers [Re: Gary Benson] #6828893
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Are they breaking the law? If so, yes, and we should also go after medical facilities charging $700 for an aspirin.



Gary, they charged 1700 for a 3 block ambulance ride, 2 xrays, and a figure 8 strap (for a broken collar bone) back in 1992 or 3.

If me and you want to change it we need to have another Boston tea party


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Re: Hoarders and profiteers [Re: James] #6828904
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Hmm hmm, leading the witness your honor.

Re: Hoarders and profiteers [Re: James] #6828905
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The blood sucking leaches, also known as pharma industry should have been dealt wit a long time ago for charging stupid amounts of money for cheap medicines. Not going against the free market but if the government invested into some medicine production places and made it at a reasonable price it would shake the market up a bit and bring things down to a sane level.


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Re: Hoarders and profiteers [Re: James] #6828907
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Your the lawyer James. I don't know if its legal or not but I think scumsuckers is a good metaphor for anybody charging 700 dollars for an asprin or a thousand for a dust mask


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Re: Hoarders and profiteers [Re: James] #6828908
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how much did you bill per hour, James?

Re: Hoarders and profiteers [Re: James] #6828932
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It doesn't seem ethical but,,,,

The article admits there is no law against "price gouging" The attorney General couldn't define "price gouging" if he had to. That's why he is citing some BS he just made up about the price today compared to 30 days ago, Remember, this is Minnesota were talking about.

Another thing to consider is that the retailer has no idea at this point what it will cost him to buy new inventory two weeks from now. He may in fact be losing money on those prices.

As long as there is a willing seller and a willing buyer, there is no such thing as price gouging.

I hope the companies fight it.


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Re: Hoarders and profiteers [Re: James] #6828979
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I agree with Leftlane and, to a lesser extent, White17.

People have the constitutional right to be secure in their property, except that certain constitutional rights may be limited or curtailed during disaster, epidemic (or pandemic), or war.

Those whose goods are seized should be paid JUST compensation, which doesn't mean price-gouging.

Jim


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Re: Hoarders and profiteers [Re: white17] #6828980
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[quote=white17
As long as there is a willing seller and a willing buyer, there is no such thing as price gouging.

I hope the companies fight it.[/quote]

Agree.

As far as medicine goes we need a true free market.

Re: Hoarders and profiteers [Re: white marlin] #6828984
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Originally Posted by white marlin
how much did you bill per hour, James?

haha. You won't get an answer from Jim, but I was quoted about $170/hr a few weeks ago. That includes driving time.

Last edited by Gary Benson; 04/03/20 09:24 PM.

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Re: Hoarders and profiteers [Re: James] #6828997
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if you sell something for 10 bucks someone will sell for 9 unless people are willing to spend 10


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Re: Hoarders and profiteers [Re: James] #6829008
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Gary,

most folks I know would consider $170/hr: "price gouging"...

Re: Hoarders and profiteers [Re: Gary Benson] #6829011
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Are they breaking the law? If so, yes, and we should also go after medical facilities charging $700 for an aspirin.

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Re: Hoarders and profiteers [Re: James] #6829049
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There was a guy on the news a few weeks ago that rented an enclosed trailer and went around and bought out stores of toilet paper and Purell then was tripeling the price and selling online and I believe even amazon. Not sure who but someone quickly put a nix on it!


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Re: Hoarders and profiteers [Re: James] #6829054
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Originally Posted by James
I agree with Leftlane and, to a lesser extent, White17.

People have the constitutional right to be secure in their property, except that certain constitutional rights may be limited or curtailed during disaster, epidemic (or pandemic), or war.

Those whose goods are seized should be paid JUST compensation, which doesn't mean price-gouging.

Jim


Who decides what and when is JUST? The people doing the seizing? When do they make the compensation?

What would be just compensation for a 25 pound bag of beans you've been storing for 2 years? I mean you cant eat 25 pounds of beans in a week and I know people who will be out of beans in two days so I'll just take yours and figure out JUST compensation, after I distribute them to the people who didn't prepare as well as you.

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I don't know an attorney in Alaska that would work for anything less than $250.00 per hour that was worth his salt!

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