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One man canoe? #6829334
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I have a chance to buy a one man canoe, I think it's 10 or 12ft.
How stable are these for fishing? How comfortable are they?
What is a good price for it?
Thanks in advance for your response.

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Re: One man canoe? [Re: harrison72] #6829337
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That's a dinky canoe. I don't think I've ever heard of one smaller than a 10', which is still very small..You won't have much room for yourself, let alone any gear. Add some chop and it sounds like a bad deal. I'd pass and look for a 12'

Re: One man canoe? [Re: harrison72] #6829367
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my bought a 16ft for 300.00 last year don't know if that will help is a very good one jmo

Re: One man canoe? [Re: harrison72] #6829372
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Canoes are relatively comfortable, and plenty stable for fishing. I've had the same one for 30 years, so I can't be much help on price. I think if you do buy you will enjoy it.

Re: One man canoe? [Re: harrison72] #6829373
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I would sell you my Mad River Guide, a solo tripping canoe, if you were in Alaska. 14.5 feet long, made of near-indestructible Royalex; sand color, with ash rails and cane seats. Very pretty canoe. It's considered a tripping canoe because it holds a considerable amount of gear for a one-man canoe. 700 pound capacity.

I wouldn't get a solo canoe under 14 feet. The front and back ends of a canoe require a given amount of space, so when you shrink or add feet to a canoe length, you're taking or adding it in the middle of the canoe, where your storage is.

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Re: One man canoe? [Re: harrison72] #6829447
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Depends on the hull shape as that's really at the extreme end of short canoes. There are some great old "trapper" models out there in that length range that are wide and stable. I'd love one for poking around in the swamps here. If it's on the narrow, round bottomed side, I would avoid it for sure unless you're child sized.

In general 14 feet or so is pretty ideal for a solo canoe. I solo my 16' all the time, but it can be a handful in wind.

Re: One man canoe? [Re: harrison72] #6829451
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A friend of mine had a solo canoe. Smallest one Old Town made. He loved it. He stated it was good because it was very easy to carry back and forth to his truck. Bigger ones are better but a tad difficult carrying them solo.

Prices are hard to put a number on , fiberglass/aluminum/Royalex all have different values , brand name means a lot too.

Of note , solo canoes are more for an experienced paddler. Due to their smaller size they are more unstable.


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Re: One man canoe? [Re: harrison72] #6829454
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i'd get a bigger one.

was a jon boat guy and laughed at canoers til kayaks came along and now i have a bunch of all a them.

they are like guns,never have too many.

plus you need a boat to claim all your guns fell out of in the great accident of 92.









Re: One man canoe? [Re: harrison72] #6829472
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I used to have one of these -
http://www.indianrivercanoes.com/otter.htm

I bought it new in Florida about 10 years ago for $240
Cheaper construction, fiberglass. Very stable. Huge 39" beam , flat tunnel ram hull , square stern for outboard.
A tad heavy but very nice for one person with gear. Flat water use only.

My next canoe will probably be Royalex. Very , very durable but somewhat light. I heard a story from a Maine guide that they were flying a bush plane into a remote pond. They had a Royalex canoe strapped to the floats. As they made their approach to the pond , the canoe came loose at 700ft and dropped to rocks below. They landed the plane , checked out the canoe , it had a huge dent from hitting the rocks. They kicked out the dent and it was good other than a crease type mark where it had dented.


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Re: One man canoe? [Re: harrison72] #6829478
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I have a Old Town Pack canoe that might go twelve feet, maybe ten, I'm not sure. Go bigger. It only weighs about forty pounds but it's really not a practical canoe. Tippecanoe.

Re: One man canoe? [Re: harrison72] #6829494
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I’ve had a 16’ Osagian for 25+ years. It has flairs on the side down low and can carry crazy loads. It’s just “ok” for a one man unit. Not even “ok” if the wind is blowing much when running alone. I would love to have a small one like H72 describes. I think it would be the perfect size to throw in my John boat and use to paddle up small feeder creeks etc that are to small for the big boat. Even my 18’ John seems full when I throw the Osagian in her.

I guess what I’m saying is canoes are like boats, ones not enough!

Re: One man canoe? [Re: harrison72] #6829495
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In solo canoes there is a fine line between having a stable canoe and one that you don’t regret buying. Remember, you are the only thing providing forward energy to everything you put in the canoe. Cragar mentions having one with a 39” beam! If it works for him great but I would never paddle that. I expect forward progress would be akin to paddling a cast iron sink. Then you also need to make sure you aren’t getting a white water canoe if you’re going to be on lakes and vice-versa.

I bought a Wenonah Vagabond. It’s a general purpose solo canoe (good for nothing? or anything?) and in Royalex it weighs only 45 lbs. Not as stable as many people want (29.75” wide at the waterline) but it makes decent progress while paddling. If you want a royalex canoe you should find it sooner than later. They stopped making the product and I see Wenonah does not offer it as a hull option anymore. I bought mine just as they were phasing it out. The used market may start to value them more and it would make sense given their attributes.


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Re: One man canoe? [Re: harrison72] #6829499
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I have the Old Town Pack canoe-12 feet long-33 pounds-Royalex. It is a very good canoe for what I use it for. Wouldn't use it on a long trip though. And kinda tippy too.

Re: One man canoe? [Re: Clark] #6829528
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Clark , I rarely paddled that canoe with the 39" beam. I used a Minn Kota Maxxum trolling motor on it mostly. That and I have a 3hp gas outboard too. The electric was kinda the best of both worlds , quiet and serene but no effort to paddling it.

Shame they stopped making Royalex , I gotta find one. Good stuff.


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Re: One man canoe? [Re: harrison72] #6829535
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It would help to give you specifics on the canoe you're asking about if you could tell us the make and model.

I have been looking for a canoe around 12' for at least 2 years. Every time I find one, it gets sold out from under me. Happened last week with an Old Town Pack listed for $300. Last year someone was selling a nice short canoe for probably half what it was worth, that one got bought out from under me too then showed up for sale a week later priced a few hundred dollars more. In certain markets, you need to act fast and be ready to go with cash as soon as you see the ad. I have alerts set up on Craigslist and facebook marketplace to notify me if anything fitting my criteria is listed.

I currently run a 14.5' 1987 Blue Hole canoe. Its royalex and has a center kneeling saddle as opposed to a seat, its built for whitewater and I got it for a really good price. When I went to pick it up, the guy said it was 12' and I drove an hour to get it, so I bought it anyway. It has worked ok, but for the short distance and tight quarters I use it in the rat marsh, I still want to try something a little shorter.

Golden Hawk makes some nice short canoes, they have a handful of models, both square back and traditional in 11' and 13' models. Bblwi on here has ome or two he uses, maybe he'll chime in with his opinion.

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I don't get in canoes under 16' now after almost drowning as they are to tippy.


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I'd like to have this one.

Sportspal canoe


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Re: One man canoe? [Re: harrison72] #6829620
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I ran into a deal on a Raddison for $200. It's about 10' but very wide and stable. Extremely lightweight. My oldest Son floats down the Niobrara and bowhunts. He killed a great buck and floated it down the river in the canoe. There is a good current so it works well in that particular situation.


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Re: One man canoe? [Re: Bruce T] #6829624
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Originally Posted by Bruce T
I don't get in canoes under 16' now after almost drowning as they are to tippy.

After many years in an 18' Trailcraft, my Brother and I climbed in a 15' Coleman and were treading water very shortly. They are dangerous.


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Re: One man canoe? [Re: harrison72] #6829626
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[Linked Image]

I hunted Moose out of a Sportspal for years. There is 1/2 a Moose, me and some camp gear in the one in the pic. They will carry crazy loads, are light and very quiet. The one I have is the seatless model, I found the portable foam seats about as useless as they look. I sit on a couple of boat visions and switch from knees to butt often to keep from getting stiff. Takes a few days to get used to that. After two weeks or so it seems normal.

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