They make a .410 deadly out to at least 50 yards. It is impressive. Not sure if it's worth the cost though.

Nope Maine don't and I limit my shots to 15 yards or under.

Pattens to good in my shotgun to not use it.

How much pattern variation can you get at 15 yards? Honestly, #2 shot at 15 yards doesn’t make sense. But thats just me.

You would be surprised the pattern differences in different shells at 15 yards.It makes sense to me.I put the bead on the turkeys neck.Touch it off and dead turkey every time.

You would be surprised. As a trapshooter I have shot many 100's of patterns at 16 yards. I'm always shooting # 8's or # 7.5's but the choke can make a big difference. I would guess at 15 yards WITH A GOOD CHOKE and any shot size the turk's head or neck would be separated from the body.

BTW: big difference is a 4" pattern or an 8" pattern.

You really need to pattern every time you switch a variable...Gun or shot

Federal Premium Mag-Shok Turkey Ammunition 12 Gauge 3" 2 oz #5 Copper Plated Shot High Velocity

This is what I use, hits dead on with my fiberoptic bead and patterns great out to 50 yards. I bought 4 boxes about 2 years ago because they were discontinuing them, probably so they can make more expensive ones.

The only problem I have with the real expensive loads is not knowing what's going to shoot good out of my gun. Could spend a few hundred dollars just trying to find a good pattern. So when I run out of these I'll probably go to high brass 6 shot and just limit my yardage.

i doubt you loaded tss for less than a dollar a shell. its $50 a pound for the shot.



tss is a nontoxic shot so should be legal in those areas

28gauge 40 yards with tss 1-7/16oz 9s



10gauge 40 yards federal premium 2-1/4oz 4s


tss is heavier than lead doesnt deform so no fliers. since it is heavier you can use a smaller shot size and each pellet still has the energy needed yet will also penetrate better due to it being smaller.

they make a 410 deadly out to as far as it can keep an acceptable pattern and not every one will make 50yds. 50yd 410 is about 1 in 10 from my numbers.

Dare i say, check mate? Disclaimer, i dont use tss. I might someday. I bought a couple 10 round boxes a couple years ago. Both pattern well in different situations for me. Given my PA only hunting and usually only one bird per year, its gonna be a while before i need ammo.

Thats the point, any shot or choke should kill a turkey dead at 15 yards. If a gun won’t kill a bird dead with any load at 15 yards, its not a turkey gun. IMO, a load of lead 7.5s would work far better than #2 steel at that close range.

Though I also know when someone tells me they “won’t shoot past xx yards”, the real number is usually close to double.

There’s more to the story with that 10 gauge pattern. Someone put in a skeet choke to make the 28 look more impressive?

With the TSS shells you will have a turkey killing pattern at 50 yards out of a cheap single shot .410. With any other ammo, I would agree 1 out of 10 at 50. This stuff is sense and hold tight patterns.

what happened with the famous heavy shot.. does no one use it now? suppose to outperform steel and shoot like led for at least waterfowl... turkey?

guys i know take long shots ALOT with waterfowl for whatever reason... anyone ever try that for turkey?

Nope.15 yards.I set my decoys at 15 yards and the turkey must be beside the decoys or closer before I shoot.

Tried hevi shot and couldn't get it to pattern at all with my gun.

no i shot both those patterns back to back. 10 gauge was a full choke. 28 gauge was a full choke.
the 10 is an h&r single and the 28 is a stevens 555

i know what tss is and can do. i am in year 6 of loading it myself. way before any company thought of loading. buying shot from hal and using his recipes. my buddy and i have tested over 20 410s so far and only 3 have had acceptable killing patterns at 50yds with tss.