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Re: FHA On-Line Announcement
[Re: wy.wolfer]
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04/05/20 01:32 PM
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Dirt
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In these days of very cheap fur, packing and handling fees are the only way for an auction to pay the bills. Buyers true cost of fur purchased at an auction with all the up charges along with shipping and brokers paperwork plus government inspection fees can more than double the cost of the fur. An $11.00 select dark LM Otter bought at auction last year cost me $22 by the time it was delivered to the dresser.
This is why auctions are motivated to sell at any price. Not in my best interest.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: FHA On-Line Announcement
[Re: Dirt]
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04/05/20 02:41 PM
04/05/20 02:41 PM
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In these days of very cheap fur, packing and handling fees are the only way for an auction to pay the bills. Buyers true cost of fur purchased at an auction with all the up charges along with shipping and brokers paperwork plus government inspection fees can more than double the cost of the fur. An $11.00 select dark LM Otter bought at auction last year cost me $22 by the time it was delivered to the dresser.
This is why auctions are motivated to sell at any price. Not in my best interest. This is really interesting. So how on Earth are they even close to the country fur buyers prices in that case? Let alone beat their prices, in my experience of course
"Nothing I like to do pays well." True Grit
"Revenge is in the hands of God, not mine." Revenant.
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Re: FHA On-Line Announcement
[Re: Poorcoon]
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04/05/20 03:12 PM
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This is really interesting. So how on Earth are they even close to the country fur buyers prices in that case? Let alone beat their prices, in my experience of course[/quote]
Over the years I been told by a lot of country buyers that they go to auction to buy certain goods because it costs to much in the country to buy the same stuff.
Kenneth schoening
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Re: FHA On-Line Announcement
[Re: cat daddy]
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04/05/20 03:19 PM
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ebsurveyor
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Some folks will never learn. Support your local furbuyer! Who has local fur buyers? I have lived in PA since 1946. I started selling furs in about 1956. For about 20 years 1980-2000 I had a local fur buyer. For the past 10 years I have been trapping in Maine. There are several fur buyers in Maine and several in surrounding states. They come together and have "local" auctions several times each year. Here is why I ship. 2013 Sale: I averaged $132 for fisher and $107 for marten @ NAFA the local sale had $50 marten and $85 fisher. The next year 2014 sale I had $159 fisher @ NAFA local auctions had about $80 fisher. That is why I ship.
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Re: FHA On-Line Announcement
[Re: ebsurveyor]
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04/05/20 03:42 PM
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Some folks will never learn. Support your local furbuyer! Who has local fur buyers? I have lived in PA since 1946. I started selling furs in about 1956. For about 20 years 1980-2000 I had a local fur buyer. For the past 10 years I have been trapping in Maine. There are several fur buyers in Maine and several in surrounding states. They come together and have "local" auctions several times each year. Here is why I ship. 2013 Sale: I averaged $132 for fisher and $107 for marten @ NAFA the local sale had $50 marten and $85 fisher. The next year 2014 sale I had $159 fisher @ NAFA local auctions had about $80 fisher. That is why I ship. Well don't let Simple Math logic and reason get in your way. LOL
"Nothing I like to do pays well." True Grit
"Revenge is in the hands of God, not mine." Revenant.
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Re: FHA On-Line Announcement
[Re: Poorcoon]
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04/05/20 06:46 PM
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This is really interesting. So how on Earth are they even close to the country fur buyers prices in that case? Let alone beat their prices, in my experience of course
Because the country buyer also has handling, shipping, paperwork expenses they need to cover and they need to take some profit between what they pay and their selling price. At the auction that is called commission, in the country it is called profit margin.
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Re: FHA On-Line Announcement
[Re: walleye101]
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04/05/20 07:34 PM
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It is also called fees which in many cases are much greater than the commission, which means an auction can make money selling for the fees and have little incentive to sell less for higher commissions. It is called fee loading.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: FHA On-Line Announcement
[Re: Monster Toms]
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04/05/20 07:38 PM
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Well I certainly think we need all three big options. The country buyers and auction houses and the state auctions just to keep everybody honest. Or more honest anyway
"Nothing I like to do pays well." True Grit
"Revenge is in the hands of God, not mine." Revenant.
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