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Ok this stimulus is WRONG !! #6831509
04/05/20 07:57 PM
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Ok let me explain . Yes people are needing help. BUT pay their wages not make it profitable.
The guy I fish with him and his wife both work at a Toyota parts supplier. They are shut down until april 30 or longer . They where ask if they wanted to draw unemployment or use vacation days. The company is paying them for 2 weeks of it and the rest is draw or use days. He said he wanted to use his vaca days. He has a really good job and makes around 65,000 a year. He brings home about 1,600 every 2 weeks after taxes and 401k. He is pee od !! His wife is going to draw $1152 a week !!!! YES a week 4,608 bucks a month to stay home!!!! For 4 months.. State is paying 552 a week and feds another 600 . That is why the congress man from Ky questioned the bill congress passed. People won't go back to work , why would they

Re: Ok this stimulus is WRONG !! [Re: jbyrd63] #6831514
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Just goes to show you,people never really had to work at all-it was a big hoax and people wasted their whole life in meaningless drudgery when the govt is able to pay them to stay home smoke dope and contemplate life and live the bohemian ideal.


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Re: Ok this stimulus is WRONG !! [Re: jbyrd63] #6831526
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I thought I heard that it did not pass the Senate.


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Re: Ok this stimulus is WRONG !! [Re: jbyrd63] #6831534
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No kidding I replied to a post on this same thing earlier this week. I'm working and am considered an essential employee (Security Lead and FAC certified). There's less than 20 of us working total to cover the 3 departments that are supposed to be there 24/7 and about 110 laid off. If I was laid off I'd get a little over $400 on unemployment plus the $600 for a little over $1000 a week. I make about $400 less than that by working. I'm making less than a laid off dishwasher right now.
Of course my company is broke so from what I understand the ones working right now will not get anything for being there. I told my boss these businesses will be lucky if the workers don't picket outside with signs that say keep it closed.
The governor said non essential businesses will be closed through April so they get 6 weeks off and a very high paid vacation. I'm very po'd about this. Nothing about this is right. I've told my boss every day I don't want to be there.

Re: Ok this stimulus is WRONG !! [Re: Gary Benson] #6831537
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
I thought I heard that it did not pass the Senate.

It passed the Senate 96-0 and Trump signed it as soon as he could. It was last Friday. All politicians suck.
I sent a letter to my Congressman last Sunday and surprisingly (Sarcasm) I didn't hear back.

Re: Ok this stimulus is WRONG !! [Re: jbyrd63] #6831542
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Watch my assistants big breasts while I do a magic trick.....


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Re: Ok this stimulus is WRONG !! [Re: jbyrd63] #6831571
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Anyone that does not go back to a good job when this is over is an idiot. The bill only covers four months.

Re: Ok this stimulus is WRONG !! [Re: Marty] #6831574
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Originally Posted by Marty
Watch my assistants big breasts while I do a magic trick.....


I'm waiting....
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Re: Ok this stimulus is WRONG !! [Re: jbyrd63] #6831575
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Bill covers 4 months for a 30 day shut down...... smile


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Re: Ok this stimulus is WRONG !! [Re: jbyrd63] #6831580
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I have mixed feelings about the stimulus, but to some degree, if the government is going to tell businesses they need to close their doors, the government bears some responsibility for those individual's finances during that time. The particulars are what I'm not so sure about.

Re: Ok this stimulus is WRONG !! [Re: jbyrd63] #6831594
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Would be nice if it only went to the people who needed it (as some surely do).

I guess I get it, too. Even though I'm still working. If there was an option to not get it, I'd opt not to get it (I'm already getting paid and honestly don't need it).

Makes me think there is something else at hand. Maybe they think people who don't need it will dump it back into the economy seeing a good percentage of Americans just blow their money as soon at they get it.

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Re: Ok this stimulus is WRONG !! [Re: jbyrd63] #6831611
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Calvin, Jbyrd is referencing the ridiculous unemployment of $600 extra a week on top of unemployment. I think you're talking about the $1200 dollar check. I will get that as far as I know but the big issue I have with that is non contributors are going to get the $1200 dollars too.
In many cases their income hasn't changed. As far as I'm concerned anyone who hasn't paid in for taxes shouldn't get that. As far as that goes no one should ever get more back in taxes than they pay in. That would include some relatives I have. I don't claim them as relatives though. Their deadbeat lifestyle doesn't sit well with me.

Re: Ok this stimulus is WRONG !! [Re: jbyrd63] #6831620
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This stimulus just took this country past a point of no return in my opinion

Re: Ok this stimulus is WRONG !! [Re: Yes sir] #6831633
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
This stimulus just took this country past a point of no return in my opinion


I agree 100%. Sad


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Re: Ok this stimulus is WRONG !! [Re: jbyrd63] #6831640
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I saw a tweet from Thomas Massie , the Congressman that didn't like the stimulus , he said it was to make the rich , richer and The poor , poorer and the $1200 was the cheese on the mouse trap.

Re: Ok this stimulus is WRONG !! [Re: Badger23] #6831643
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Originally Posted by Badger23
No kidding I replied to a post on this same thing earlier this week. I'm working and am considered an essential employee (Security Lead and FAC certified). There's less than 20 of us working total to cover the 3 departments that are supposed to be there 24/7 and about 110 laid off. If I was laid off I'd get a little over $400 on unemployment plus the $600 for a little over $1000 a week. I make about $400 less than that by working. I'm making less than a laid off dishwasher right now.
Of course my company is broke so from what I understand the ones working right now will not get anything for being there. I told my boss these businesses will be lucky if the workers don't picket outside with signs that say keep it closed.
The governor said non essential businesses will be closed through April so they get 6 weeks off and a very high paid vacation. I'm very po'd about this. Nothing about this is right. I've told my boss every day I don't want to be there.

I don't agree with the stimulus either, But, I should not matter what others do, make, or get. just go to work like you did every other day. apparently it was good enough before the virus.

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Originally Posted by mask bandit
I saw a tweet from Thomas Massie , the Congressman that didn't like the stimulus , he said it was to make the rich , richer and The poor , poorer and the $1200 was the cheese on the mouse trap.

This I believe, you can rest assured the upper 1% will benefit far more then an additional $600 per week.

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Originally Posted by mask bandit
I saw a tweet from Thomas Massie , the Congressman that didn't like the stimulus , he said it was to make the rich , richer and The poor , poorer and the $1200 was the cheese on the mouse trap.

Exactly.... the stimulus spends about $20,000 per taxpayer of OUR money, gives each tax payer $1,200 and the sheep are excited about it. What's funny to me people are actually debating whether it's good or bad.

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Originally Posted by Badger23
No kidding I replied to a post on this same thing earlier this week. I'm working and am considered an essential employee (Security Lead and FAC certified). There's less than 20 of us working total to cover the 3 departments that are supposed to be there 24/7 and about 110 laid off. If I was laid off I'd get a little over $400 on unemployment plus the $600 for a little over $1000 a week. I make about $400 less than that by working. I'm making less than a laid off dishwasher right now.
Of course my company is broke so from what I understand the ones working right now will not get anything for being there. I told my boss these businesses will be lucky if the workers don't picket outside with signs that say keep it closed.
The governor said non essential businesses will be closed through April so they get 6 weeks off and a very high paid vacation. I'm very po'd about this. Nothing about this is right. I've told my boss every day I don't want to be there.

I don't agree with the stimulus either, But, I should not matter what others do, make, or get. just go to work like you did every other day. apparently it was good enough before the virus.

You really think 2.5 trillion isnt going to have any consequences??

Re: Ok this stimulus is WRONG !! [Re: Badger23] #6831656
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Originally Posted by Badger23
Originally Posted by Gary Benson
I thought I heard that it did not pass the Senate.

It passed the Senate 96-0 and Trump signed it as soon as he could. It was last Friday. All politicians suck.
I sent a letter to my Congressman last Sunday and surprisingly (Sarcasm) I didn't hear back.

I stand corrected. Thank you. With all the variables, there's simply no way to make it fair as far as who needs it and who doesn't.


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