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Magnetic field of coyote traps #6831798
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Ok as someone mentioned on another thread this topic deserves a thread of its own so all you high tech trappers give everyone the rundown on how all of this works.

Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6831802
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Is this like the coyotes smell the rust on your traps that's why you have to wax them?

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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6831803
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I don't think so I don't really know anything about it that's why I'm asking the pros.

Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6831807
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PM Kirk De, he is a member on here and has mentioned it several times on other posts. I believe it follows the same thought process behind Keck’s electro magnetic camouflage clothing don’t know anything more about it other than I noticed the name keck’s on the wetsuits on some shark researchers.


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6831818
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I discovered that the reason the animals were avoiding traps and sets was that they were identifying or seeing or feeling magnetic field it was projected from the trap.So I wrote a book about it a short book. I tested various traps and trap devices. I found a website in the United Kingdom that explained How animals can detect a magnetic field in which animals there were that they had tested. There weren’t very many. Mainly dogs wolves fox beaver Otter coyote and a few more. at the time they had Only tested 16 species. Most of the animals tested we’re not animals That were common here. They only tested 16 species. Most of the animals tested we’re not animals that are commonly found in the United States.Nobody had tested traps and trap devices.


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6831821
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I discovered that various methods I was using trapping beavers and otters Was reducing and hiding the magnetic field of the traps I was using. I did the methods because that’s what I found to be the best way to catch the animal. That was why I was able to catch the thousands of animals that I did in such a short period of time. At least it contributed to it greatly.I wasn’t aware of a magnetic field at the time. I had no no clue.


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Huntall76] #6832026
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Originally Posted by Huntall76
Is this like the coyotes smell the rust on your traps that's why you have to wax them?

Some animals such as a coyote actually can sense and see the magnetic field. Other animals can only feel it and sense it. How they sense the field is that the higher intensity field increases the molecular breakdown of molecules. Essentially making the trap stink more. It increases the ability of the animal to smell the trap. By using a magnetometer you can tell where the field radiates the most off of the trap you’re using. That will help you determine how to set the trap in the best position to catch the animal. Tom Miranda did a video and it’s on YouTube . Google Tom Miranda trapping diggers video. In the video he places a piece of sandpaper on the pan and positions to trap so that the animal digging out the area he senses is easier caught.So even if your trap radiates a magnetic field how the trappers position makes a difference in how well you can catch the animal.Someone please post that video.


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: cmcf] #6832097
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Originally Posted by cmcf
PM Kirk De, he is a member on here and has mentioned it several times on other posts. I believe it follows the same thought process behind Keck’s electro magnetic camouflage clothing don’t know anything more about it other than I noticed the name keck’s on the wetsuits on some shark researchers.

The heck’s suit blocks the impulse of your body so the animal doesn’t see or feel it. I believe it also holds your smell inside so that it’s not dispersed as easily. I believe it possibly could have scent hiding properties also such as scent killer spray‘s claim to have.For example in beaver trapping when setting exposed conibear traps by placing a log in front of the trap on each side at the level of the top of the trap or just below prevents the animal from seeing the radiating field of the trap:If he’s moving fast he Will be in the trap before he sees it:


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6832103
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I wonder why beaver would take a chance and plug a steel culvert?


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: 8117 Steve R] #6832118
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Originally Posted by 8117 Steve R
I wonder why beaver would take a chance and plug a steel culvert?

As the diameter of the pipe is larger and depending on the metals used, There is a reduced field going through the pipe This has a calming affect to the animal. It works the same way to a properly made cage trap. The trap should have a negative reduce field going all the way through the trap. It is in my writings If the pipe had a high intensity at the front of the pipe the beaver probably would just patch it and not go through. A high intensitity would stop him at the door or opening .

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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6832179
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I tend to take all of this with a grain of salt and yet I know first hand that some people have an electric field of some kind . My maternal Grandmother could not wear a watch of any kind her entire life. When she was 80 years old we got her a small locket type watch to wear around her neck. As long as she didn’t let it get against her skin the watch worked flawlessly, she was very tickled to finally be able to wear a watch. I personally can wear a wind up watch but not a battery powered one, so I do know their is some electro magnetic “ stuff “ going on . I’m just not convinced that the type of trap you choose will determine if you can catch critters or not .
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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6832197
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He didn't say one word about magnetic fields.

Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6832227
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Interesting topic. I guess put me in the category of non-believer but willing to be converted. . . . a doubting Thomas, as it were.

So we know there is a ton of research that indicates many animals navigate by using magnetic fields (bats, pigeons, etc.). There was also an interesting article that talked about when foxes are mousing, they apparently use magnetic fields because they tend to orient their bodies predominantly in a North-Northeast configuration. See http://blogs.nature.com/news/2011/01/fox_rangefinder_sense_expands.html.

However, using magnetism to navigate is distinguishable from detecting metallic objects and thus avoiding them, which is what I think is being proposed here. I watched Tom Miranda's video and while he talks about using sand paper on the pan of his trap, he didn't reference any sort of magnetic field, but rather associated it with a fox's desire to dig and scratch at loose soils and objects with odor that lie beneath the soil.

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Neither did I , exactly .

Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6832247
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I'm in the act of testing, have put out 7 test sets with results so far. Wet weather has slowed me down. Planning on 30 test sets. It's been interesting so far. I make two small mouse size holes about 2 foot apart, put same bait down both, dig a trap bed in front of both, bed a non functional trap in front of one hole and in front of other hole I just pack the trap bed back solid without a trap. Not hard to test if a guy wants to know for sure.

Should be able to determine if the looser soil in a trap bed contributes to digging issues also.

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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Lazarus] #6832294
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Originally Posted by Lazarus
Interesting topic. I guess put me in the category of non-believer but willing to be converted. . . . a doubting Thomas, as it were.

So we know there is a ton of research that indicates many animals navigate by using magnetic fields (bats, pigeons, etc.). There was also an interesting article that talked about when foxes are mousing, they apparently use magnetic fields because they tend to orient their bodies predominantly in a North-Northeast configuration. See http://blogs.nature.com/news/2011/01/fox_rangefinder_sense_expands.html.

However, using magnetism to navigate is distinguishable from detecting metallic objects and thus avoiding them, which is what I think is being proposed here. I watched Tom Miranda's video and while he talks about using sand paper on the pan of his trap, he didn't reference any sort of magnetic field, but rather associated it with a fox's desire to dig and scratch at loose soils and objects with odor that lie beneath the soil.
You might want to read what I said in the post about how a magnetic field will increase the stink of a trap because it disrupts the molecular‘s around the trap. I believe I’m the first one to discover the magnetic field dealWhen it relates to animal traps and devices. That’s why I named the book as I did.Sometimes you have to read something two or three times to remember what you forgot. I know in writing the book I had to read many research periodicals several times sometimes 10 times before I understood.


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Yes sir] #6832297
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
I'm in the act of testing, have put out 7 test sets with results so far. Wet weather has slowed me down. Planning on 30 test sets. It's been interesting so far. I make two small mouse size holes about 2 foot apart, put same bait down both, dig a trap bed in front of both, bed a non functional trap in front of one hole and in front of other hole I just pack the trap bed back solid without a trap. Not hard to test if a guy wants to know for sure.

Should be able to determine if the looser soil in a trap bed contributes to digging issues also.

If you use a foothold with a high intensity reading it will prove your test a lot quicker.


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Yes sir] #6832317
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Yes sir, you need to make sure the trap when it is Wired open it doesn’t change the magnetic field of the trap. How the wires connected will rearrange the field. Or at least it could. It needs to be presented as you would set a trap normally to be accurate.

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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6832329
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OK, now you've got me curious. I installed the Tesla Bot on my phone and its giving me readings. If I'm pointing it at my trap set, is there a threshold number that I should be looking for? What's too high? What's acceptable?

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Originally Posted by Lazarus
OK, now you've got me curious. I installed the Tesla Bot on my phone and its giving me readings. If I'm pointing it at my trap set, is there a threshold number that I should be looking for? What's too high? What's acceptable?
Turn your volume up on your phone and push the 10 X button on the iPhone or on the outside of the magnetometer. Go out in your yard away from any powerlines turn your magnetometer on. Figure out what your average reading is. That is your base anything above that is a higher intensity. Anything below are a reduced intensity. If you have a cage trap when you run the magnetometer in the door of the trap a A reduced reading should be experienced for the trap to be best. A higher rating than your average indicated you may catch fewer animals with the trap.


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