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What's really behind the chloroquine story? #6832819
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Dr in france has used it on a thousand patients, the chinese have used it on who knows how many people. Spain has apparently treated 70 plus percent of cases with it. Multiple other countries treating people with it. Doctors in this country have treated people with lupus or rheumatoid arthritis with it for decades, with little to no side effects.

Now why would it's use in this country be either held back or prohibited?

Up over ten thousand people dead now, how many of those people would have liked to try a dose?

Re: What's really behind the chloroquine story? [Re: wr otis] #6832823
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Maybe someone, somewhere wants a high death toll?


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Re: What's really behind the chloroquine story? [Re: wr otis] #6832866
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Fear of litigation?,...James?,....sign a paper in these extraordinary circumstances?

Re: What's really behind the chloroquine story? [Re: wr otis] #6832874
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Yup, give them a choice don't take and see what happens or do take and see what happens either way sign this paper saying we gave you a choice.

Re: What's really behind the chloroquine story? [Re: wr otis] #6832876
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There is no real money to be made with chloroquine, it's an old generic drug. The big pharmaceutical companies want something they can make billions of dollars on.
I kind of think Dr. Fauci is somehow involved with this; I think he's a snake. Or perhaps he's also working against Trump's reelection. The Dems and the Deep State don't care if they kill millions in order to accomplish their goals.


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Re: What's really behind the chloroquine story? [Re: wr otis] #6832894
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Because Trump suggested it first.


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Re: What's really behind the chloroquine story? [Re: wr otis] #6832900
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Re: What's really behind the chloroquine story? [Re: wr otis] #6832912
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Yup, give them a choice don't take and see what happens or do take and see what happens either way sign this paper saying we gave you a choice.

Yep,...seems so observant and placid,..cant figure why it would be so controversial ,..a simple reaction to an obvious question! Personal choice,..personnel affirmation.

Re: What's really behind the chloroquine story? [Re: wr otis] #6832914
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Governors are banning the use of it in their States because it might work and Trump supports it, the people should get a good idea of their worth if they live through the BS. Since when should a person whos not a Doctor tell people what meds to take of not take is that their job.


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Re: What's really behind the chloroquine story? [Re: waggler] #6832922
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Originally Posted by waggler
There is no real money to be made with chloroquine, it's an old generic drug. The big pharmaceutical companies want something they can make billions of dollars on.
I kind of think Dr. Fauci is somehow involved with this; I think he's a snake. Or perhaps he's also working against Trump's reelection. The Dems and the Deep State don't care if they kill millions in order to accomplish their goals.


Dr. Fauci kind of sounds like a doomsday doctor. Not much encouragement.

Re: What's really behind the chloroquine story? [Re: wr otis] #6832939
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Re: What's really behind the chloroquine story? [Re: wr otis] #6832964
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It really comes down to lawyers and big pharma on this one imho

Re: What's really behind the chloroquine story? [Re: wr otis] #6832970
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National emergency,..any other regulatory agencies or such,..step aside,..gratuitous thanking !

You see where this all ends up?

Re: What's really behind the chloroquine story? [Re: wr otis] #6832994
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I still don't see a national emergency.

How can a governor tell a Dr what can be prescribed? I am not buying that one


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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338 per million is the death rate in a city with 27 some thousand per square mile. A horrible problem with rats and cockroaches too. Just not adding up to a national emergency.


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We get to 5000 deaths deaths per million, or 1/2 a percent, shutting down the whole country and running unemployment up to 30% or whatever it is, putting who knows how many small business's out of commission permanently, etc might be worthwhile. What we have instead is 338 deaths per million in the most crowded rat infested city in our country.

New Orleans is at 380 deaths per million. Another rat infested city. Only 1965 people per square mile.

Rats may be contributing IMO

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Re: What's really behind the chloroquine story? [Re: wr otis] #6833009
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Re: What's really behind the chloroquine story? [Re: wr otis] #6833091
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So is Boris Johnson fakin it ,Why wouldn't he use the malaria drug ?


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Re: What's really behind the chloroquine story? [Re: wr otis] #6833095
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its all part of the aliens plan.we are just pawns in a bigger game of chess than we understands.









Re: What's really behind the chloroquine story? [Re: wr otis] #6833104
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This thread and all the conspiracy theories doesn't make sense to me. The synthetic quinine compounds ARE being widely used in the US to treat CV19 patients. This is addressed repeatedly by the CV19 team that says it's between you and your doctor whether to use the anti-malarial drugs. In many cases the restrictions put in place by Governors is to prevent hoarding to ensure those that need it on a regular basis can still get what they need. Regardless, there are many on the left, especially in the news services, that hope it doesn't work just because Trump touted i's possibilities.

Re: What's really behind the chloroquine story? [Re: wr otis] #6833116
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Hydroxychloroquine and Chloroquine, recommended by President Trump and the CDC, it has been on the CDC website for months
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/therapeutic-options.html

Re: What's really behind the chloroquine story? [Re: wr otis] #6833128
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Why is Fauci luke warm on it at best?

That guy that died from taking the fish tank cleaner, I suspect he just screwed up the dosage rate. That dude gets it right and maybe the use of it doesn't get curtailed.

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Originally Posted by wr otis
Why is Fauci luke warm on it at best?

That guy that died from taking the fish tank cleaner, I suspect he just screwed up the dosage rate. That dude gets it right and maybe the use of it doesn't get curtailed.


I read they are looking into the wife.

Re: What's really behind the chloroquine story? [Re: ponyboy] #6833241
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Originally Posted by ponyboy
Originally Posted by wr otis
Why is Fauci luke warm on it at best?

That guy that died from taking the fish tank cleaner, I suspect he just screwed up the dosage rate. That dude gets it right and maybe the use of it doesn't get curtailed.


I read they are looking into the wife.


There's quite a history there. Abuse charges.

Pretty sure he got corona'd by her. "Hey honey, drink this, it'll make you feel better."

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The wife worked for her local Hillary campaign and was a staunch democrat ,
yet she claims they tried it because Trump promoted it , Crowder has a video about it on
YouTube , would post it but it's language is adult oriented.
She killed him . imo

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Originally Posted by pcr2
Dr.Falsey...... whistle

Hahaha,,yup,,I don't like him much.


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South Dakota going to do state wide trials, French doctor did over a thousand patients. Still lukewarm from Fauci and the FDA. Why is that anyway? How many people died while officials are waiting for more testing.

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Yep SD is the new ginny pig for the pill not sure if it’s a reward or a punishment for our Governor refusing to bow to the other States on lockdown orders. If not for Smithfield our cases would be very low still.


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Originally Posted by wr otis
South Dakota going to do state wide trials, French doctor did over a thousand patients. Still lukewarm from Fauci and the FDA. Why is that anyway? How many people died while officials are waiting for more testing.


Pretty sure if you followed the money trail you'd find out.

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Wonderful decisions for folks from South Dakota. The drug has limited production and almost no pharmacies have any or can get any. The demand is much higher than the amount of drug available and some of the people who have been on it for years for autoimmune problems have had their dosages cut in half in an attempt to spread it around. Recently the US Federal government purchased(placed an order I suspect) 21 million doses(200 mg tablets). The news release from the Governors office stated that she had worked with the White House to assure that up to 3 million of those tablets would be made available to South Dakota physicians who would participate in a statewide clinical trial. That is enough doses that 100,000 persons could receive the 3 tabs/day for 10 days which is the recommended treatment. Her release stated that the primary users would be anyone hospitalized with COVID-19, frontline medics and those deemed most at risk. I believe that the State of Florida just purchased about an equal amount to be made available to physicians there. Several weeks ago the Democrat govs of at least 3 states issued decrees against physicians using the drug to treat COVID after Trump spoke glowingly about it but I think all three have since backtracked. I am sure happy that I live in a state with a chief executive whose main concern is for the citizens of her state rather than the other kind.

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I would like to see the president's medical credentials before I would put my health in his hands.


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If I get the virus and am headed for ICU, I'd want a big dose of that stuff first.

Lupus doctor in charge of the largest lupus department in the country has stated the drug has almost no side effects, maybe a slight rash. Now if he's prescribing this stuff maybe more than anybody, then his word is good enough for me.

Every single US patient should be questioned as to whether they are on this drug or not. If they have been, but nobody is talking about it then what gives?

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Because Pcr likes pickles


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Yep SD is the new ginny pig for the pill not sure if it’s a reward or a punishment for our Governor refusing to bow to the other States on lockdown orders. If not for Smithfield our cases would be very low still.



Bet somebody at Smithfield didn't wash their hands (sarcasm).

Their case against the pill seems to be that if the patient has a heart problem it could kill them, maybe they could check them for a heart problem. The bad thing is if they have a heart problem they are likely to die anyway, with or without it.

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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I would like to see the president's medical credentials before I would put my health in his hands.


You should also get your TDS checked while your at it.

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The French doctor that discovered that Hydroxichloroquine works on Covid-19
is ranked #1 in the world for treating communicable diseases , Fauci is ranked 23rd .
wiki
Just saying .

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Trump's news conference this morning had five people telling their story of recovery with the drug. Maybe it's on YouTube, I just happened to catch it at lunch.

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Originally Posted by yukonjeff
Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I would like to see the president's medical credentials before I would put my health in his hands.


You should also get your TDS checked while your at it.

I'd have to know what TDS was before I got it checked.


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TDS equals Trump Derangement Syndrome.


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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I would like to see the president's medical credentials before I would put my health in his hands.


No one is going to force you .


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