Buy Kirks book so you can understand how it relates to catchin or not, I've read it 7 times so far, It has changed my perception the way animals act around sets and how my traps are bedded. It's not the rust!

Hi Taxi - I remember your unofficial mb600. It is a great step in between. I sent an email to Cavens asking if they would consider running a test batch of your design. They said that they put your idea on the drawing board. Maybe you heard more.

If i start walking now going west from eastern Ohio, maybe I would get there in time for you to show me one of those beautiful coyotes that you catch in the fall.

Best wishes.

I do and will in a heart beat

Thanks,Willy Firewood.I have never spoken to Tim or Rob,that I know of but that is interesting.

I sure wish that the Caven’s would make an mb600, just like the 550 only bigger.

Popcorn

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XXX 3. They need to get on that. The duke trap would irrelevant if they came out with one legal in more states. Say a 6” model. Duke screwed the pooch by making it to big. IMO.

Taximan,by moving the jaw so close to the back of the dog I would think it would be harder to get 3 or 4 lb. pan pressure.I did a lot of messing around with the bridger #2 and the step down paws I trip pans and when first put on I had trouble getting the poundage up because of this.With a good bit of tinkering and welding I got them where I wanted them but it took some work.What`s the pan tension on that?

XXX4 . I am with you on the 6 inch jaw spread. Duke would have a better audience with 6 inch inside jaw spread. Lots of states follow 6 in inside jaw spread. Alabama has 6 inch inside jaw spread law

That's what I told Bill Duke when I emailed he said there may be future plans of an Duke 600

All states except Ga...they’re afraid our deer couldn’t escape anything over 5.75”.

6” not allowed in NY. Inside laminated????

It ticks me off GA doesn’t allow over 5.75” for land trapping. Beaver trapping they dont care go as big as you want.

You are exactly right.That is the flaw in my design.I knew it would happen but wasn't sure how much the tension would go down.Moving the jaw closer to the dog eye,messed up the trigger geometry that Rob designed into it.My purpose in this project was to se how little I could change the 550 and still have more jawspread,so I didn't really want to fabricate any parts.

It needs to have a longer cross and dog so the middle of the dog rests on the jaw.I tweaked it a little by filing the jaw so that the dog only contacts the inside lam.Then I bent the dog up slightly and added the 4 coils.I don't measure pan pressure but it probably goes about 2 1/2 #.That is a little lighter than I usually run but I can work with that.

I converted 6 of these but am going to wait to see what the future brings before converting the rest.We have some of the best traps available to us,today and it seems like companies are still trying to improve.

Oh,forgot to say,before the tweaks,pan tension was very light,probably less than a pound.Good observation,Forestman,you are the only one to ever catch that.

How many of you own a Ozark trail cup?

Think I have one. The wife put a wood-stain on it. It looks really good.

Don't tell me it has a magnetic field too?!?

LOL!!!