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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6832750
04/06/20 09:50 PM
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Star date:2765- destination: unknown. Spock has detected a magnetic mind-reading device on Krypton, and Sulu thinks we should investigate.
In the mean time, I will be de-magnitizing my Klingon traps, just in case.
Kirk out.


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Lazarus] #6832754
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Originally Posted by Lazarus
Originally Posted by Dr. Fur
Well, the baseline in my house is 29.

I moved it around my laptop on my lap. Right in front of family jewels, it went to 211. I wonder if that is good or bad???


Think what kind of a reading you would have gotten 15 years ago. :-)


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Lazarus] #6832763
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Originally Posted by Lazarus
So I went to a spot of ground in my backyard and it was pretty solid at 44. Movement to the left or right 2-3 feet yielded only small variations.

I tested 4 traps.

The first was a Painted (with direct-to-metal paint) number 3 dogless Bridger with a dog knot stake attached. It registered right at 45. Not much difference.

I then tested a painted #3 Monty round jaw dogless with a drag and long chain. It was 44. The drag actually was closer to 43 but the trap was 44. Later I got curious and put the phone right on top of the trap (about 3" distance) and moved it all around the trap. The levels went from a hight of 46 to a low of 38 on various parts of the trap, with the levers being lower than the jaw/dog area.

I also tested a bare, rusted #3 Victor LS. It tested right about 43, slightly below the previous two painted traps.

I also tested a 1.75 waxed Monty with a stake. This trap jumped to 65, which was way above anything else. Later I discovered that if I moved the trap away from the stake, the readings went down to the mid-50's. Then I zeroed in on the stake. I had recently welded a nut to the top of an old dog knot and it was still raw -- not wax or paint to it and some of the welding flux still present. The top where I had welded was the hot spot. The rest of the stake was normal. I tried burying the stake head and the reading subsided just a tiny bit. I then put an aluminum wire screen pan cover on the trap and the reading decreased a few points. The same with the other traps.

I then put the pan cover on each trap and buried it. Doing so decreased the readings slightly.

To get an accurate reading your iPhone needs to be within an inch of what you’re trying to project on the metal. In the cage trap you’re measuring the area so you put it in the center of the trap


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Lazarus] #6832774
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What is the temperature where you’re at. If it’is Below 50° that will reduce your readings.


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6832784
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I tried holding the phone within an inch and you're right, it really effects the readings, but I found that the percentage increase is about the same. The only difference is the pan of the trap -- all four traps, was really a hotspot.

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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Lazarus] #6832789
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What’s your Lowe’s for the night and temperature. Is it 40° or below


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6832797
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Were u within an inch when you tested ur traps Laz? I got a bigger reading on my traps. Even varied based on which part of the trap I was reading.

Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Yes sir] #6832800
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That’s the way it should be


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6832804
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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Yes sir] #6832806
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Were u within an inch when you tested ur traps Laz? I got a bigger reading on my traps. Even varied based on which part of the trap I was reading.


Yes, when I went back (after Kirk's correction) and tried the one inch rule and it varied greatly, but again, percentage increase I thought was roughly the same . . . I will have to confirm tomorrow when its not raining.

Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6832808
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Going to try it tomorrow...ain’t catching anything anyways, lol. But all my traps are MB550’s. Guess I could get different readings per trap. We’ll see. Then again, guess different soil could also affect the readings. Got plenty of time to play around after work. I can go to my guaranteed spots that produce year after year and compare those to other sets with no catches yet.

Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Wanna Be] #6832816
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
Going to try it tomorrow...ain’t catching anything anyways, lol. But all my traps are MB550’s. Guess I could get different readings per trap. We’ll see. Then again, guess different soil could also affect the readings. Got plenty of time to play around after work. I can go to my guaranteed spots that produce year after year and compare those to other sets with no catches yet.

If your traps are all identical everything should be all the same as far as the magnetometer readings


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6832865
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Robert would have caught like 2700 coyotes this season instead of 900 and some if he had known about this. Hes gonna be crabby when he finds out...


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Colter Benson] #6832871
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Originally Posted by Colter Benson
Robert would have caught like 2700 coyotes this season instead of 900 and some if he had known about this. Hes gonna be crabby when he finds out...

All this would do is confirm that he’s the real deal. I’ve always thought that about him.


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6832959
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I actually took super powerful neodymium magnets, and buried them in front of canine/meat based baits, and in beaver dam breaks and in the dirt/mud in beaver haul-outs, all with trail cams watching. There is no noticeable avoidance of the magnets by beaver when the magnet is under water in front of the dam break, or just under surface of the mud above waterline on haul outs. No beaver has had any noticeable reaction to the magnets, even shoving them into the dam with arm arm-load of mud on two occasions. Beaver could not even seem to tell the magnet was there, ever. Something like 20 visits recorded on video, several different ponds, all sizes of beaver. No avoidance by raccoons that I can tell, nor red fox or coyote. I admit I only have a half dozen or so coyote visits on film over the magnets, but not one even payed any noticeable attention to the magnet, although a few did turn and spot the camera and cut a fast trail for another county...
No video of otter around the magnets but plenty of mink. So far, I can’t see any indication that any animal even knows they are there. Not one, not once.
This says nothing about cage traps though, haven’t done any testing with those at all.
That’s my observation, and based on that I’m not concerned with magnetic fields of footholds. And I’ve just caught too many beaver in conibears to think they have some magnetic property that beaver are afraid of. But hey, it is possible that when steel is magnetized it could make the metal smell more so yotes smell the trap better. Doubting it based on my observations but it’s possible.

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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: loosanarrow] #6832967
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I believe that in scientific terms this is what is called a “control group or study “. Without a control, data or observations have a much lower value.


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: cmcf] #6833234
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Originally Posted by cmcf
I believe that in scientific terms this is what is called a “control group or study “. Without a control, data or observations have a much lower value.
In my book I explain in detail why control group study will not work or be accurate. You have to read the book from start to finish to really understand. I explain in the book throughout the book by using inconsistent consistent inconsistencies. I gave examples by using different forms of Radiation examples.


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: loosanarrow] #6833251
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Originally Posted by loosanarrow
I actually took super powerful neodymium magnets, and buried them in front of canine/meat based baits, and in beaver dam breaks and in the dirt/mud in beaver haul-outs, all with trail cams watching. There is no noticeable avoidance of the magnets by beaver when the magnet is under water in front of the dam break, or just under surface of the mud above waterline on haul outs. No beaver has had any noticeable reaction to the magnets, even shoving them into the dam with arm arm-load of mud on two occasions. Beaver could not even seem to tell the magnet was there, ever. Something like 20 visits recorded on video, several different ponds, all sizes of beaver. No avoidance by raccoons that I can tell, nor red fox or coyote. I admit I only have a half dozen or so coyote visits on film over the magnets, but not one even payed any noticeable attention to the magnet, although a few did turn and spot the camera and cut a fast trail for another county...
No video of otter around the magnets but plenty of mink. So far, I can’t see any indication that any animal even knows they are there. Not one, not once.
This says nothing about cage traps though, haven’t done any testing with those at all.
That’s my observation, and based on that I’m not concerned with magnetic fields of footholds. And I’ve just caught too many beaver in conibears to think they have some magnetic property that beaver are afraid of. But hey, it is possible that when steel is magnetized it could make the metal smell more so yotes smell the trap better. Doubting it based on my observations but it’s possible.

There’s a tremendous bit of difference in catching animals in the deep South. . Because of the thousands of animals that I caught in the deep South and because of my patents I was able to come up with these deductions that others could not. I know of no other trapper with the Experience I have with the 24 hour check as deep south as I have.The warm weather winters the higher magnetism of the earth the further south you go allowed me to have experiences of others just haven’t. The testing that I did all makes common sense in a simple way, It all makes sense when Understood.


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: alaska viking] #6833347
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Originally Posted by alaska viking
Star date:2765- destination: unknown. Spock has detected a magnetic mind-reading device on Krypton, and Sulu thinks we should investigate.
In the mean time, I will be de-magnitizing my Klingon traps, just in case.
Kirk out.

Animals detect magnetic field if it has a high intensity variance. Where I live the induction of the earth there’s about 46 micro tesla. Probably where you live and where are you trap if it’s Alaska is about 60. Because you’re cold temperatures reduced daylight and lower magnetism of the moon you have very little intensity variance when it’s below zero it’s almost nothing. It would be the same as the battery not being able to start a car in the cold you have to heat the battery up in order for it to work. Unless you’ve trapped some in the deep south or at least in some of the lower 48 you would always have the feelings that you have now.Mocking something that’s accurate just hurts the industry.


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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps [Re: Artrapper16] #6833353
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Inconsistent consistent inconsistentcies? Sorry, you lost me with that one.

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