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Question for you Adam and Eve believers #6837100
04/10/20 01:14 PM
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Homo Erectus are considered the forerunners of us humans and from the information I read, they could reason and speak although probably very archaic. According to the Bible Adam and Eve are the first humans on earth. Therefore, wouldn’t Adam and Eve have to look like early man Homo Erectus instead of modern day humans and have Homo Erectus mental functioning. If God originally made us in his image, then God would have to look like early man. If you don’t believe Homo Erectus existed let’s go with a later stage of advanced man that could reason better like the Neanderthal man.

Re: Question for you Adam and Eve believers [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6837113
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Is this the side effect of being quarantined for too long?

Re: Question for you Adam and Eve believers [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6837124
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Re: Question for you Adam and Eve believers [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6837126
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Religious people don't believe in evolution so in the mind there was no early human types.

Re: Question for you Adam and Eve believers [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6837129
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Your second question first. The bible clearly teaches that God does not "look" like us in a physical sense. "Image" refers to creativity, self awareness, willfulness, etc.

Your first question. There is no reason that homo erectus is not simply just another primate; not necessarily of our human race.


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Re: Question for you Adam and Eve believers [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6837133
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I believe that adam and eve were people like us with their language and skin color. You have to realize that adam and even was created before the fall and made perfect. I would highly suggest reading genesis chapters 1 and two.

God said it was good. In our finite minds we only have the experience of what you and i see today and how we relate to it. But for God, it was completely perfect, flawlessly good. Unstained, no imperfections. I think that is the hardest thing for our mind to wrap around because we have never seen that. God is holy and can never lie - God's character assures we trust in His declaration. "I am that I am". Can you wrap your mind around that simple mind exploding view of God? Wow!

It was a perfect undiluted world not affected by sin. Genesis 3:17 ...." Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat food from it all the days of your life" He said to the woman that he will sharply increase the pain of childbirth...

What science does today is recreate in their best knowledge what man MIGHT act like, SPEAK like, LOOK like.. just like the dinosaurs.. and everything else. There is only so much evidence, some make it crooked for their OWN glory and prestidge in research rather its true or not.

God is also a God of order, adam and eve had language....responsibilties...relationship with God.. not a retarded half brain individual that science tries to convince that we once were.

Re: Question for you Adam and Eve believers [Re: lumberjack391] #6837134
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Originally Posted by lumberjack391
Religious people don't believe in evolution so in the mind there was no early human types.

I would suggest you don't speak for other people, particularly on a subject you apparently don't know much, if anything about.


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Originally Posted by Oh Snap
Is this the side effect of being quarantined for too long?


Maybe.

Re: Question for you Adam and Eve believers [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6837136
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Re: Question for you Adam and Eve believers [Re: BuckMink] #6837138
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Originally Posted by BuckMink
I believe that adam and eve were people like us with their language and skin color. You have to realize that adam and even was created before the fall and made perfect. I would highly suggest reading genesis chapters 1 and two.

God said it was good. In our finite minds we only have the experience of what you and i see today and how we relate to it. But for God, it was completely perfect, flawlessly good. Unstained, no imperfections. I think that is the hardest thing for our mind to wrap around because we have never seen that. God is holy and can never lie - God's character assures we trust in His declaration. "I am that I am". Can you wrap your mind around that simple mind exploding view of God? Wow!

It was a perfect undiluted world not affected by sin. Genesis 3:17 ...." Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat food from it all the days of your life" He said to the woman that he will sharply increase the pain of childbirth...

What science does today is recreate in their best knowledge what man MIGHT act like, SPEAK like, LOOK like.. just like the dinosaurs.. and everything else. There is only so much evidence, some make it crooked for their OWN glory and prestidge in research rather its true or not.

God is also a God of order, adam and eve had language....responsibilties...relationship with God.. not a retarded half brain individual that science tries to convince that we once were.


Well said

Re: Question for you Adam and Eve believers [Re: waggler] #6837149
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Originally Posted by waggler
Originally Posted by lumberjack391
Religious people don't believe in evolution so in the mind there was no early human types.

I would suggest you don't speak for other people, particularly on a subject you apparently don't know much, if anything about.


Advice taken, not another word from me. I will let the pros continue.

Re: Question for you Adam and Eve believers [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6837151
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Homo Erectus could very well be Cain’s people. Their appearance could be the result of God’s marking of him because of his fear of being killed after he killed his brother. Homo Erectus would be pretty scary if all you had was a club. lol


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Re: Question for you Adam and Eve believers [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6837160
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Adam and Eve were first. I don’t recall reading God quit creating after he got them done. Maybe he made others?


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Re: Question for you Adam and Eve believers [Re: cfowler] #6837164
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Originally Posted by cfowler
Adam and Eve were first. I don’t recall reading God quit creating after he got them done. Maybe he made others?

He had to have made more with all the begotin that went on later
And if Eve was first, who was Lilith?

Re: Question for you Adam and Eve believers [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6837169
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Homo Erectus could very well be Cain’s people. Their appearance could be the result of God’s marking of him because of his fear of being killed after he killed his brother. Homo Erectus would be pretty scary if all you had was a club. lol

Cain and Able is one of my favorite stories. From the get go vegetarians are shown their true colors....inferior to meat eaters and violent and hostile towards others.

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Originally Posted by cfowler
Adam and Eve were first. I don’t recall reading God quit creating after he got them done. Maybe he made others?

He had to have made more with all the begotin that went on later
And if Eve was first, who was Lilith?

Lilith aint in the bible.....

Re: Question for you Adam and Eve believers [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6837172
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I've mainly heard Christians either say one of three things when referring to other now extinct humanoids.

1- "I believe because of faith and I dont have an answer for everything". I am very satisfied with that answer
2- "I believe in evolution and also believe in God who made the first cells or set things in motion". I am very satisfied with that answer
3- "Scientist are tricking us, the earth is only 4,000 years old and evolution is a lie". I am typically satisfied with that answer enough because I no longer care to discuss anything regarding science with that person.

Re: Question for you Adam and Eve believers [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6837190
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Adam and Eve were first. They had many children who had many children and so on. All people came from them. It's tough to say who ''early humans'' were. There are records in stone where human foot prints are fossilized right along with dinosaur tracks so I believe God made all of it but the time line is not millions and millions of years like evolutionists believe. There is also the story of the Tower of Babel.

Belief in Lilith is not a Christian belief. It is a Hebrew belief. She is also mythical person who roamed the earth for 4000 years. She is also reference by Isaiah as a demon from the wilderness. The name Lilith is associated with chaos and is now used as a mascot by feminists.


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I have my own pet theory about Adam and Eve. Virtually every primitive society refers to themselves as”the people” and considers everybody else to be sub human. Perhaps Adam and Eve were simply the progenitors of the Hebrew people?! Not going to argue with anyone about this, just an idea to throw into the mix.


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Re: Question for you Adam and Eve believers [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6837195
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As a believer (Christian) I am particularly perturbed by other believers espousing your Point "3".

I see no conflict between science and belief in Divine creation. The notion that "scientist are tricking us" is so silly. Do people actually think that physicists, geologists, botanists, zoologists, biologists, and chemists get together at some sort of convention and conspire to put together some sort of argument against God or Creation?

All those academic disciplines are so competitive if any scientist in any of those fields can prove the other wrong they love the opportunity to do it.
The idea that they that they would try to trick us is nonsense.

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