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Did China over-react? #6838508
04/11/20 02:30 PM
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I know a lot of folks on this site tend to believe our “government” (state or federal) over-reacted to the virus, and we need to return to normal operations. Part of the problem with that, for many workers in the US, is China quit producing goods/items needed to produce work for US workers. So did China over-react to the virus by shutting their country down? And, did they do so knowing it would inflict economic injury on others?

My thought is, Covid-19 is a real enough virus. Potentially deadly, like many other things in life. BUT, I was watching a lot of economic uncertainty here in the US, in China, and in other parts of the world before the virus. The virus magnified the problems that were surfacing in different economies, but the virus shifted the attention of the true cause of those economic issues. The virus became the “cover story” for what they planned to do anyways. I don’t generally feed into “theories”, but there’s more going on than is being talked about, IMO. Anyone else thinking something similar?


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Re: Did China over-react? [Re: cfowler] #6838515
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To be honest I'm so confused I don't know what or who to believe so it's a little hard for me to say what an over reaction would be. And maybe that's the goal of this whole thing in the end. Confuse the whole flock so we don't see what's happening.

Re: Did China over-react? [Re: cfowler] #6838519
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China has to much invested in the U.S. to have it shut down.


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Re: Did China over-react? [Re: cfowler] #6838533
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I don't think this is a planned attack by China on us I think if they were going to try to shut us off and disrupt our economy it would have been a unilateral and crushing blow by just shutting off export of all items to the United States they are probably quite upset that circumstances tipped their hand on on our vulnerabilities to a future plan of embargo that they may have had . this is just a minor inconvenience compared to what they could have done in a real-life embargo

Re: Did China over-react? [Re: cfowler] #6838547
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Originally Posted by cfowler
I know a lot of folks on this site tend to believe our “government” (state or federal) over-reacted to the virus, and we need to return to normal operations. Part of the problem with that, for many workers in the US, is China quit producing goods/items needed to produce work for US workers. So did China over-react to the virus by shutting their country down? And, did they do so knowing it would inflict economic injury on others?

My thought is, Covid-19 is a real enough virus. Potentially deadly, like many other things in life. BUT, I was watching a lot of economic uncertainty here in the US, in China, and in other parts of the world before the virus. The virus magnified the problems that were surfacing in different economies, but the virus shifted the attention of the true cause of those economic issues. The virus became the “cover story” for what they planned to do anyways. I don’t generally feed into “theories”, but there’s more going on than is being talked about, IMO. Anyone else thinking something similar?


Absolutely.

Now the FED and the US government have a black swan event to blame and can use the cover of that to maybe prolong the inevitable


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Re: Did China over-react? [Re: cfowler] #6838563
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All I know is it's time to bring things back here to be built and produced. How is it that we are a super power but can't self sustain and we have to depend on other countries to survive?


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Re: Did China over-react? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6838569
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Originally Posted by Sprung&Rusty
All I know is it's time to bring things back here to be built and produced. How is it that we are a super power but can't self sustain and we have to depend on other countries to survive?



Dang there might be some hope for you yet! Spot on. wink


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Re: Did China over-react? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6838575
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Originally Posted by Sprung&Rusty
All I know is it's time to bring things back here to be built and produced. How is it that we are a super power but can't self sustain and we have to depend on other countries to survive?


Absolutely.

If the press was any good, your question would be posed to past presidents who piled regulations on businesses and allowed foreign made products in with minimal tariffs.

Re: Did China over-react? [Re: cfowler] #6838611
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China, or more correctly the small handful of elites in the CCP, has to much to lose pulling something stupid. They've made a deal with the devil riding herd on several million chinamen. As long as they can keep them fed by importing western capital they hold power. Screw over the west and that capital goes away and several million chinamen go hungry. Question is are there enough CCP thugs to return to Stalinist/Maoist control?


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Re: Did China over-react? [Re: cfowler] #6838641
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I don't think so warrior, I think the CCP is done for exactly the reasons you said. The famine starts after the plague.

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Re: Did China over-react? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6838694
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Originally Posted by Sprung&Rusty
All I know is it's time to bring things back here to be built and produced. How is it that we are a super power but can't self sustain and we have to depend on other countries to survive?


Nailed it.

Re: Did China over-react? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6838703
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Originally Posted by Sprung&Rusty
All I know is it's time to bring things back here to be built and produced. How is it that we are a super power but can't self sustain and we have to depend on other countries to survive?


I agree. If you’re dependent on someone else so you can, you’re not in-charge.


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