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Re: The human evolutionary tree [Re: beaverpeeler] #6839495
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Don't you guys have that other thread as your playground?


Careful their beaverpeeler one of the most dangerous things in the universe is a cornered religious fanatics.


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Re: The human evolutionary tree [Re: beaverpeeler] #6839503
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The problem with science is to much theory. Which is a educated guess.

The problem with scientific theory is that for the ignorant they think it is a guess.

It's actually this.
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A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world.

Re: The human evolutionary tree [Re: walleyed] #6839506
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
You obviously know jack about my lineage


Heinrich Himmler's great, great grand-son, right ? eek

You've got good potential as a chicken farmer.

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Walleyed. You may as well stop trying to offend me. Ya see in order for that to work I would first have to value your opinion. On this subject thats not going to happen brother.
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Re: The human evolutionary tree [Re: beaverpeeler] #6839516
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A thread for those of us that are interested in this kind of thing.

Over my lifetime the age of human ancestors has been getting pushed further and further back. I have read with fascination the discoveries made over the years. Advances in science in the past 20-30 years have shed so much new light. When I had an anthropology class in the mid-70's the discussion was what had happened to the Neanderthals? Since there was an overlap of our direct ancestors with them had we killed them off? Was it possible that we had interbred? And of course now we know the truth. We just absorbed their smaller numbers into one mongrel race that includes about 2% Neanderthal DNA in all but people of african ancestry. That 2% is really a huge number when you think about it. I have read that we share 99% of our DNA with our closest primate relative the chimpanzee!


I think it is fascinating stuff. It is equally as fascinating to me how indoctrination has and continues to be so successful at controlling the masses, and taking their money I might add.

A real good link for anyone else who finds this story of humankind most interesting.
where did we come from

Re: The human evolutionary tree [Re: beaverpeeler] #6839520
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I didn't mean to imply science is wrong, or bad, just a lot in science is theory. You are right about everything that comes out of our head is theory, until it becomes proven fact. My theory is: There are things we will never know. but in turn that doesn't mean we should not try to figure them out. At the moment shared DNA is fact, but human evolution remains theory.

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For anyone to draw a correlation between Germany and Great Britain is just plain stupid or any other part of Europe for that matter. To infer anyone has anything to do with the final solution that wasn’t there is speaking out of the wrong end of their gut.


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Re: The human evolutionary tree [Re: beaverpeeler] #6839527
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The fascinating thing about most if not all the science disciplines is that the more you dig, the more you see that there is more to learn. The picture just keeps getting more and more complex. Like beaver peeler mentioned scientific things we learned in the 70's need to be either relearned or modified on a regular basis.

There are people on both ends of the spectrum who want to use science to either support an agenda -climate change for example-, or to bash science -young earthers for example. Both of them willfully blind to science.

I read an interesting book a few years ago that described the dispersal of mankind across the globe, I can't remember the name, sorry. However, even that book may be supplanted by new discoveries by now.



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Re: The human evolutionary tree [Re: rvsask] #6839534
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A thread for those of us that are interested in this kind of thing.

Over my lifetime the age of human ancestors has been getting pushed further and further back. I have read with fascination the discoveries made over the years. Advances in science in the past 20-30 years have shed so much new light. When I had an anthropology class in the mid-70's the discussion was what had happened to the Neanderthals? Since there was an overlap of our direct ancestors with them had we killed them off? Was it possible that we had interbred? And of course now we know the truth. We just absorbed their smaller numbers into one mongrel race that includes about 2% Neanderthal DNA in all but people of african ancestry. That 2% is really a huge number when you think about it. I have read that we share 99% of our DNA with our closest primate relative the chimpanzee!


I think it is fascinating stuff. It is equally as fascinating to me how indoctrination has and continues to be so successful at controlling the masses, and taking their money I might add.

A real good link for anyone else who finds this story of humankind most interesting.
where did we come from

That link is an article that is a collective bunch of giant poor hypothesis', imo.


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Re: The human evolutionary tree [Re: Coös] #6839535
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Originally Posted by Coös
Probably why the human race is the dominant species on the planet.


Genesis 1:28 - And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

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There are things we will never know. but in turn that doesn't mean we should not try to figure them out. At the moment shared DNA is fact, but human evolution remains theory.

In science, theory explains the fact. Take whitetails for example, there are 30 subspecies in N.A alone and the reason for this fact is found in the Theory of Adaptation.

Re: The human evolutionary tree [Re: beaverpeeler] #6839540
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
A thread for those of us that are interested in this kind of thing.

Over my lifetime the age of human ancestors has been getting pushed further and further back. I have read with fascination the discoveries made over the years. Advances in science in the past 20-30 years have shed so much new light. When I had an anthropology class in the mid-70's the discussion was what had happened to the Neanderthals? Since there was an overlap of our direct ancestors with them had we killed them off? Was it possible that we had interbred? And of course now we know the truth. We just absorbed their smaller numbers into one mongrel race that includes about 2% Neanderthal DNA in all but people of african ancestry. That 2% is really a huge number when you think about it. I have read that we share 99% of our DNA with our closest primate relative the chimpanzee!

Again interesting. Now the question is where is the missing link between man and the chimp. If there is one.




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You have a good point there Waggler. Science has been watered down with politics these days because of different agendas. That though as you said is not true science. The principle thing is missing on that route and that is an open mind.
I still think that we should come back to the original theme on another day once the easter thing has passed. Not that I am known for being overly PC but ....... well ya know


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That link is an article that is a collective bunch of giant poor hypothesis', imo.

Of course it is in "your opinion". But truthfully how much of a chance have you ever given that argument in your entire life? Has just accepting your opinion (possibly an opinion indoctrinated into you as a youth) without question, how it has always been?

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Originally Posted by Scuba1


Walleyed. You may as well stop trying to offend me. Ya see in order for that to work I would first have to value your opinion. On this subject thats not going to happen brother.
grin If we ever met, I would still buy you a beer.


Definitely not trying to offend you, but that anti-semitic/
anti-religious comment on Easter Sunday was a bit over the top,
even for you.

If we ever meet, I'll drink your beer.

wash your hands.

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Originally Posted by Scuba1
You have a good point there Waggler. Science has been watered down with politics these days because of different agendas. That though as you said is not true science. The principle thing is missing on that route and that is an open mind.
I still think that we should come back to the original theme on another day once the easter thing has passed. Not that I am known for being overly PC but ....... well ya know

Scuba,
I plan to go to church (virtually of course) later today to celebrate the Resurrection, however, I am not at all conflicted talking science. Can I explain the Resurrection scientifically? No, it is not a subject of science.
Just the idea that mankind has an inquiring mind is an interesting subject in itself. I doubt any other species in the animal kingdom sit around and speculate on these things.

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Is it heresy to believe in CHRIST and science? I think not. Many of you will disparage my faith because of my last question. Then go off and thump your chest with pride. For none are so blind as those who would not see and brothers and sisters there is a mountain of evidence and it is growing faster than ever. You can make a diamond in a lab so easily the world uses them as abrasives. But no one and I mean not one fossil has ever been made in a lab, because it takes TIME. And before any of you crackerjacks start holleren what about the FAKES? Everyone was found out and it was science that exposed them.

If not for science we would still be stareing at the southern end of a north bound goat and wondering what that comet “portends “ and why the crops are failing and maybe that voice in our head telling us to kill our son may be on to something. WHHHAAATTTT?


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I must be missing something; I don't see any bickering.

Anyway, here's an interesting article that appeared in yesterdays Anchorage paper.
The dispersal of humans from the eastern hemisphere to north and south America is really fascinating. The area described in the article was actually a grassland at that time (late Pleistocene). I think it's a little curious that the writer didn't point out that fact.
https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/sci...-brooks-range-known-for-extreme-weather/


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There are things we will never know. but in turn that doesn't mean we should not try to figure them out. At the moment shared DNA is fact, but human evolution remains theory.

In science, theory explains the fact. Take whitetails for example, there are 30 subspecies in N.A alone and the reason for this fact is found in the Theory of Adaptation.
To the contrary facts are used to validate theory.

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That link is an article that is a collective bunch of giant poor hypothesis', imo.

Of course it is in "your opinion". But truthfully how much of a chance have you ever given that argument in your entire life? Has just accepting your opinion (possibly an opinion indoctrinated into you as a youth) without question, how it has always been?

RV, I don't think I ever come to a conclusion or belief without doing my own research. I'm my own man so to speak and come to my own beliefs when I have satisfied my quest. That article, written by a scientific journalist, and a bunch like it use, we don't knows and probably's. I respect others opinions, as for mine I believe that all things including us are here because of the Creator.


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