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Socialism ??? #6842570
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Is it considered a political thread when the subject is so far from reality that it becomes a punchline? Really, I cannot believe that socialism is even being considered. Have people lost their minds? We have been fighting it and forms of it for the last 100 years and all of a sudden people believe it's a good idea? Examples are everywhere, including modern day examples of it happening right this very minute of the failure and suffering that it causes and through all of this, not one example of it succeeding..... EVER! I know for most of us on here I am preaching to the choir but I can't wrap my head around the mental numbness it must take to buy into this farce. It must be a mental disorder?

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Plenty of idiots in the world.

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It's all about the EASY button. Don't have to get up and go to work, it's worth it to a Democrat apparently.


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Re: Socialism ??? [Re: Finster] #6842589
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Originally Posted by Finster
Is it considered a political thread when the subject is so far from reality that it becomes a punchline? Really, I cannot believe that socialism is even being considered. Have people lost their minds? We have been fighting it and forms of it for the last 100 years and all of a sudden people believe it's a good idea? Examples are everywhere, including modern day examples of it happening right this very minute of the failure and suffering that it causes and through all of this, not one example of it succeeding..... EVER! I know for most of us on here I am preaching to the choir but I can't wrap my head around the mental numbness it must take to buy into this farce. It must be a mental disorder?

very welll put my thoughts exactly...... im not sure whats going on but im not going to let corona... or big brother rule my life....im gonna go to work tomorrow even if im hung over!!!


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Re: Socialism ??? [Re: Finster] #6842593
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Plenty of people wanting to be taken care off don't want any responsibility, want everything now, somebody else fault
What bothered me the most the last 15 or so years I worked was the lack of initiative of new employees to learn skills and take on more responsibility even for higher pay let alone personal satisfaction BUT they did not want anyone else doing it either bringing everyone down to their level was more acceptable than making an effort


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If we don't keep bailing everyone and every business. Maybe people will get it see that they have to work to be better have more drive not be dependent on the tax money of others if not you bet the things that are happening now being told when where you can go what you can get will get a lot worse.

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The really weird thing is that, while protesting, they often scream "freedom"??????? Good grief, What they are fighting for is about the furthest thing away from freedom you could ask for. These idiots do not understand that they will be squashed like a bug under socialism. They will be lucky not to starve to death, yet they are begging for it! How can people be so stupid?


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Re: Socialism ??? [Re: Finster] #6842606
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Most people proclaiming socialism doesnt have a clue what it means. Many thinks it is being on social media and talking to people.

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Originally Posted by jeff karsten
Plenty of people wanting to be taken care off don't want any responsibility, want everything now, somebody else fault
What bothered me the most the last 15 or so years I worked was the lack of initiative of new employees to learn skills and take on more responsibility even for higher pay let alone personal satisfaction BUT they did not want anyone else doing it either bringing everyone down to their level was more acceptable than making an effort


It’s all about a perverted concept of equality and acceptance where instead of the best rising to the top and getting the benefits of doing so, it’s based on pushing everyone down to the lowest common denominator and making everyone the same by forcing compliance on those that would work hard to get ahead

And it doesn’t matter what race or socio economical strata your from you will find it laying in wait

Like others I just don’t understand it or how people can fall for it, I remember seeing news stories about schools where students were performing well under where they should be and all the parents and community leaders instead of demanding that teachers and the schools improved what they were doing instead lowered the requirements

It used to be that parents pushed their kids to to succeed and get ahead of everyone else now it seems they want not only others kids to be mediocre but their own as well



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Re: Socialism ??? [Re: Finster] #6842626
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I agree Finster , i would love to divide the country down the middle and make two countries . One country ( america ) limited government , capitilism

The other ( anti america ) big governmemt socialism / communism


Now people would need to move to the appropriate country.........CHOOSE A SIDE !!!!

Fence riders get a bullet ......


Now what would happen to each country ??? This would be an excellent experiment in my opinon


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Originally Posted by Finster
The really weird thing is that, while protesting, they often scream "freedom"??????? Good grief, What they are fighting for is about the furthest thing away from freedom you could ask for. These idiots do not understand that they will be squashed like a bug under socialism. They will be lucky not to starve to death, yet they are begging for it! How can people be so stupid?

When some people say "freedom", what they really mean is "no responsibilities". They want the "freedom" to be taken care of without having to work for anything.

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You know the feeling when you’re in your early 20’s and you go back home for a visit and Mom makes you lunch and serves you coffee and Dad is excited to see you and you all chat about how life is going and they slip you a $20 as you leave to make life just a little bit easier on you?

That’s how socialism feels. Great eh!


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Re: Socialism ??? [Re: Jurassic Park] #6842722
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
You know the feeling when you’re in your early 20’s and you go back home for a visit and Mom makes you lunch and serves you coffee and Dad is excited to see you and you all chat about how life is going and they slip you a $20 as you leave to make life just a little bit easier on you?

That’s how socialism feels. Great eh!

I would like to say yes to this but in my entire life, my dad never slipped me a 20...…. he never slipped me any money on the side that I remember.... In fact, the last money I remember getting from my parents was when I was 14 and going with my friends family on vacation for a week. I asked for $20 and after a 3 hour debate on the subject was begrudging given it. However, I was told that this was it and when I returned, I was expected to get a job. (already had a few cutting grass but was trying to save money for traps and ammo).


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In it's ideal form, democratic socialism is about government that works for ordinary people, not big money interests. Our political system has been screwing average Americans over in the interest of billionaire CEOs and wall street for so long that it's basically background noise at this point. We all accept it as normal as if there's no other way. I think just like capitalism, there is a way to get socialism right and a way to get it wrong.

It's not about free stuff, it's about politicians serving the best interests of those who aren't lining their pockets. Sure it can get twisted into nonsense, and I'm not a fan of many folks who are pushing it, but I don't think what we have now is the best answer either.

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To use the $20 dollar bill example, it'd be you paying your dad $20 for a ride to the parts store to pick up a new starter for your truck while your visiting home in your early 20s. The socialist father would take you to the parts store. The capitalist father would take your money, then on the way to the parts store he sees a half naked bimbo with a bag of cocaine hitching on the side of the road, kicks you out. When you see him later he has a great explanation, and solicits you to pay him for a other ride to the parts store.

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Originally Posted by Coös
To use the $20 dollar bill example, it'd be you paying your dad $20 for a ride to the parts store to pick up a new starter for your truck while your visiting home in your early 20s. The socialist father would take you to the parts store. The capitalist father would take your money, then on the way to the parts store he sees a half naked bimbo with a bag of cocaine hitching on the side of the road, kicks you out. When you see him later he has a great explanation, and solicits you to pay him for a other ride to the parts store.


The capitalist father owns the parts store.

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And his son will inherit it.Socialism?

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Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
Originally Posted by Coös
To use the $20 dollar bill example, it'd be you paying your dad $20 for a ride to the parts store to pick up a new starter for your truck while your visiting home in your early 20s. The socialist father would take you to the parts store. The capitalist father would take your money, then on the way to the parts store he sees a half naked bimbo with a bag of cocaine hitching on the side of the road, kicks you out. When you see him later he has a great explanation, and solicits you to pay him for a other ride to the parts store.


The capitalist father owns the parts store.

Mike


In my example, the father is a political figure. If we're talking full on capitalism, I wouldn't be surprised if he's got a business interest in the parts store. Make a little more money of his sons $20, which on this scenario represents your tax dollars.

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And he still gets the girl and the cocaine.

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Originally Posted by Boco
And his son will inherit it.Socialism?


No, that's nepotism... socialism is when the government takes it after dad dies and redistributes it as they see fit... Usually to their benefit.

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