If he owns the parts store who cares how he spends his money?

Mike

I think that's communism, but I'm no scholar.

Cuz you hired him to drive. And he's your senator. And it's your tax dollars.

Couldn't agree more Finster! But sadly it's socialism is being slipped under our doors little by little. Let's face it, as much as I hate to say we're not a true capitalist country. I'm sure every capitalist on this site will send their stimulus check back? I mean come on, everyone likes a little something for free. Every conservative on this site has a liberal bone hidden away, it's true! Whether it be zoning ordinances, stimulus money, etc. you see where I'm going. We all have wanted to impose some of our beliefs on others even if just a little. People in this country aren't hungry enough, yet! A lot or a little socialism is here. Best that can be done is try like hades to limit it!!!!

Ya got some issues I believe. Information and education on the matter are at the top of the list and I don't say that to belittle you, I say that as objective criticism.

So we scrap the greatest economic system ever 'cuz one sleazeball likes hookers and blow... Sounds legit.

Mike

Actually, I've been trying to figure a way to do that. I don't want the money and would like to send it back. However, I'll be taxed on it. Does anyone know how I can send it back and get a receipt? Not get taxed on it? I'll send it back if I can do that.

No worries. The problem is where that information is coming from, you can find plenty to back up or negate any position you could take on the matter. Either way it's all theoretical. I don't for a second think that our country could pull off socialism in a good way. Those in power would bend it to their benefit as easily as any other system. But I do think at it's heart it is a good thing.

Translation: It just hasn't been implemented properly.

Mike

Spot on. Most things haven't or we wouldn't be having this discussion.

History has shown us that capitalism does more to lift the masses than socialism. The growing divide between classes is a direct result of socialistic policies.

Well, you can go there with anything. Sure, on paper socialism is a great thing. However if you are on paper, so is communism and fascism! They all work great on paper. They all provide for all of the masses and they are all perfect utopian governments. That would be great if everyone in power was a robot with nothing but governing in their agenda. Now introduce humans into the equation. The first and last thing you get is tyranny. Not once, not twice, not maybe but every single time that it has ever been tried in the history of mankind form biblical times until today. I do not understand how people do not get it? The only proven system that has worked is capitalism. It has worked so well that it has made the United States the only true superpower in the world in less than 250 years from our founding. and beside this pandemic, stronger than ever. Yet idiots feel they need to change it? It baffles me. No one in this country cannot succeed with effort. You may not own a mansion but you will live a good life. People that don't are lazy in my opinion and I grew up with less than most so I am not talking out of my butt.

Anyone have experience with "community gardens"? Our town did it here, donating a small piece of land, the idea being some folks didn't have the space or skills to garden on their own, so the experienced folks would teach them how and everyone would work together and split the work, expenses and harvest. Socialist utopia! Maybe Joe didn't have money for seed but he could show up on a hoeing day. 5 people did the majority of the work, all the time thinking that they were doing good for the community. Some of the older generation really bought into the idea that they were going to get a lot of help later in the season. Same 5 kept the thing going all summer, until harvest when >25 showed up with their baskets to harvest away. Of course the 5 were stunned by the freeloaders harvesting everything at every opportunity. A couple of the workers didn't get as much as 1 meal of green beans, such was the intensity of freeloader harvest. The last straw was some of the commie freeloaders absconded with the last few tomatoes and pumpkins to experiment with capitalism by selling them at the farmers market for some quick dispensary cash. Year two, none of the 5 workers showed up, the freeloaders then begged the city for money to buy the seeds. The city summarily dismissed that request and added that the users would have to pay a bit of the water bill this year. Died a quick death. Several of the freeloaders could be seen around town lamenting how great having all those veggies were (they really had a bountiful harvest that first year) but not a single one of them would do the work to grow another harvest. The take home message is that even on what seems like a small manageable scale, socialism or communism doesn't work.

Even a little red hen can tell you socialism doesn't work. She even instructed the non-workers to pound sand at the end of the story!

Socialism in its pure form is complete evil. It cares soley about the State. In socialism, the purpose of the people is to benefit the State. So if you dont benefit the State, you'll have to justify your existence to the local panel.

Socialism proponents talk about "The Workers" all the time because you are only allowed to be a worker. You dont get to run a business, unless your part of the Party and it sanctioned. You cant become wealthy under socialism unless you're in the upper echelons of the Party or State. When I say Party or State in the discussion of Socialism, they are one and the same so they are interchangeable, there are no other political parties. They might exist like the Constitution Party, they have nobody in significant office and no hopes achieving it.

Dont get fooled about Democratic Socialism. Its Socialism with a PR department. You go down the road of Socialism, there is no more democracy, only State control by whatever Party delivered it.

Everybody's Talkin like it's something that could happen. It's here!. It's now!. The United States is a socialist country right now. And they did it without a fight. They slowly took over the farmers. Slowly getting them dependent on one government program after another. Many other entities and now the Coronavirus finished us off. And there's no going back and there's nothing you're going to do about it either.

Animal Farm, the book.

Another thing is no matter what system you choose you can never prevent corruption, it's simply human nature. Progressive intelligenca believe that man is good by default and man can be peefected, which is why they dismiss religion of any sort. That believe is obviously flawed so the only thing left is total control because those plebes just can't get with the program.

Our founders knew that for our Republic to last is to be a moral society, as it can't survive an immoral one. Immorality is winning.

The Russians are Coming, the Russians are Coming, and they came! Now I think they have put smallpox in our blankets, lol !

We have a lot of welfare programs, doesn't make us socialist. Sweden is the same way and keep yelling at Bernie to stop calling them socialist. Once we start nationalizing businesses, then we're socialist.